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Old 07-25-2013, 10:10 AM   #21
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Multivitamins have prevented me from having a cold or flu for damn near three straight years. I don't care what anyone says, I feel healthier and I stay away from illness much better taking a daily supplement.
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Multivitamins have prevented me from having a cold or flu for damn near three straight years. I don't care what anyone says, I feel healthier and I stay away from illness much better taking a daily supplement.
I have a rock in my pocket and I haven't had a cold in three years either. Wanna buy my rock so you can stop taking multivitamins?
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Well, I was I think I will stop taking my Multi-Vitamin after this. I take fish oils because I've found that they seem to help me go a little harder on my cardio workouts and seem to do nice things for my skin, but maybe that's a placebo effect.
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I have a rock in my pocket and I haven't had a cold in three years either. Wanna buy my rock so you can stop taking multivitamins?
How do I know you won't just pawn any old rock off on me, and keep the magic one?
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Multivitamins have prevented me from having a cold or flu for damn near three straight years. I don't care what anyone says, I feel healthier and I stay away from illness much better taking a daily supplement.
How do you know it isn't the placebo effect?
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I wouldn't make decisions based on this study. There is a bad side to everything.

My certified dietician recommends I take a fish oil (since I do not eat fish often) and 1 or 2 multi v's daily.
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too much of anything is bad for you..

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I wouldn't make decisions based on this study. There is a bad side to everything.
Key point, its studies, and META studies, which is looking over many studies to find META data which is much more powerful than individual studies.

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Right which has been the long standing accepted notion, but we are peeling back that notion and what is worry some is that in many studies people taking vitamins were doing worse than those who did not, so there is actually serious risks to be concerned with. Many of the scientific community laughed that vitamins and supplements just made your pee a darker color and wasted your money, no harm there.. But What the multiple studies are starting to say is worry some.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:44 AM   #31
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Multivitamins have prevented me from having a cold or flu for damn near three straight years. I don't care what anyone says, I feel healthier and I stay away from illness much better taking a daily supplement.
Same here.

I take 4,000IU of Vitamin D every day, Omega3s, Magnesium and some Zinc here and there along with a random multi-vitamin. I hardly ever get sick, and feel great these days.

The hilarious part about all of this is that it is possible to get your levels checked yearly by doing a blood test. If you believe that your levels are either too low, or too high, get them checked.
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Washing your hands and not picking your nose also prevents the cold and flu.
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There has been talk that omega 3's from West coast salmon oil aren't that good for you because of all the pollutants where as Omega 3's from sardines from the East coast are really good for you.

It's a Newfie conspiracy probably...
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Washing your hands and not picking your nose also prevents the cold and flu.
I work in a hospital so it is near impossible for me to avoid contact with people who are sick, however in the past three years, I have been sick once, and that was a norovirus that hit me like a sack of bricks and that I didn't pick up from a hospital.

I don't take multivitamins, although I have a container that I purchased three years ago on a whim. What I do however is go to the gym and exercise, avoid drinking in excess and smoking, eat healthy meals (for the most part), practice good hygiene and get quality sleep every night.

We live in a society that thinks that a pill is the answer to all problems that we encounter and it is the magic cure. Every single problem has an answer in a pill bottle, when changes in behaviours are overlooked, often because it is more difficult.
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when changes in behaviours are overlooked, often because it is more difficult.
Agreed.... is there a pill for that?
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Washing your hands and not picking your nose also prevents the cold and flu.
Where's the fun in that though.
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I had a good opportunity to teach my 11 year old son recently about critical thinking (quality of sources).

He wanted to try Raspberry Ketone for weight loss (he is not even overweight). He heard about it on youtube, and knew Dr. Oz endorsed it.


I showed him the following article, and it really opened his eyes. I think he will be more skeptical in the future.

http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skept...berry-ketones/
That in itself is the terrifying part of this. You have an 11 year old who is watching daytime television and that is what is being absorbed is that he should take a pill to lose weight. I applaud you for teaching your son about what quality evidence entails and this isn't a slight against you at all but the fact that he at 11 years old would be concerned about his weight to the extent that he would want to take something based on what a television doctor/youtube was saying is scary in itself.
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How do you know it isn't the placebo effect?
How do you know it isn't the vitamins?

If it was a placebo, that fact would have been busted open a loooong time ago.
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How do you know it isn't the vitamins?

If it was a placebo, that fact would have been busted open a loooong time ago.
I don't need to know that, I'm not the one claiming the vitamins are the reason he doesn't get sick (which itself is a claim I take with a grain of salt). Furthermore, the question is meant to open up a greater line of questioning, which if you read below you'll see where I would have taken said questioning if he had responded before you.

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We live in a society that thinks that a pill is the answer to all problems that we encounter and it is the magic cure. Every single problem has an answer in a pill bottle, when changes in behaviours are overlooked, often because it is more difficult.
Totally. It's this line of thinking that leads otherwise rational people to think that "because I take pill X, I don't get sick anymore", of course ignoring the other interesting influences, such as people who are concerned about their health do tend to make healthier choices overall. The body's ability to fight disease is itself a variable, and so on.

There is such a wide range of things that can impact our health that, without proper testing, it's simply unsupportable to claim that your good health is a direct result of taking vitamin supplements daily. How does one know that it isn't a result of other influences? That's why we do control trials.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:40 AM   #40
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How do you know it isn't the vitamins?

If it was a placebo, that fact would have been busted open a loooong time ago.
Was that supposed to be in green text? Because your body will heal itself of injury or disease on its own, it's almost impossible to either discredit or credit any kind of treatment based on anecdote alone.
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