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cam_wmh · 07-20-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Not at the Olympics when playing with Sid...

He got 2 goals last Olympics, with ample time on Sid's line.

By that logic, Iggy's a lock. He led the Olympics with 5 goals.

Cali Panthers Fan · 07-20-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaine

Nash is that you?

I'm just saying that Nash is still a very valuable asset, just not top 2 line level on Canada's roster. Didn't watch him a tonne in New York, and we all know he struggled, but he still has a lot to offer.

Kaine · 07-20-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I'm just saying that Nash is still a very valuable asset, just not top 2 line level on Canada's roster. Didn't watch him a tonne in New York, and we all know he struggled, but he still has a lot to offer.

As do many other players, without the "struggles" to the extent he has had or the questions floating around weather he is a top player or not.

Cali Panthers Fan · 07-20-2013, 10:18 AM

@ Kaine.
That's fair, but you have to be sure that his replacement is a much better player and has his experience on the international stage. Say someone who has played at the World Juniors and several World Championships. Any thoughts?

Kaine · 07-20-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

@ Kaine.
That's fair, but you have to be sure that his replacement is a much better player and has his experience on the international stage. Say someone who has played at the World Juniors and several World Championships. Any thoughts?

Strongly disagree. We'd never get new players if they selected based on this criteria.

vanisleflamesfan · 07-20-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by moon

That roster (as always) looks miles better than anybody's else's roster.

Sweden or US will have a chance if Quick or Lundvist play crazy, Russia at home and with one game eliminations have a chance as well but Canada should be the favorites with that roster or any roster they send over.

I personally think it is a huge stretch to say that Canada is "miles better than anybody else". I would not be shocked at all to see this American team with gold medals around their necks.

Zach Parise - Joe Pavelski - Patrick Kane

Ryan Callahan - David Backes - Phil Kessel

Max Pacioretty - Ryan Kesler - Bobby Ryan

James van Riemsdyk - Paul Stastny - Dustin Brown

Extras: Jason Pominville, Derek Stepan

Ryan Suter - Kevin Shattenkirk

Keith Yandle - Ryan McDonagh

Paul Martin - Dustin Byfuglien

Extra: Jack Johnson, Justin Faulk

Jimmy Howard

Jonathan Quick

Craig Anderson
Cory Schneider
Ryan Miller

Kaine · 07-20-2013, 10:28 AM

While the US forwards aren't even in the same league as Canada's they do have far superior goaltending.

vanisleflamesfan · 07-20-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaine

While the US forwards aren't even in the same league as Canada's they do have far superior goaltending.

THe USA has the kind of 'embarrassment of riches' in net that Canada used to take for granted. And in a short tournament that is so important.

And yes, the US might not have the kind of offensive firepower that the Canadians have at forward, but they have enough and what they have are a ton of very complete two-way players who can skate on the big ice.

Ruttiger · 07-20-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Who is everyone's dark horse picks for the team? I think that Mackinnon or Drouin may be able to crack the team based on speed and ability. I'm thinking Price will be the starter.

Not a chance. My 8 month old daughter has as much of a chance as either of those two of getting named to this team. You don't drop two raw rookies into the highest stakes tournament in the world on a country with Canada's depth at forward.

Dark horse? I'll say David Clarkson, spurred on by the exposure of playing in a higher visibility market and the need for some sandpaper on the team. That said, it's a stretch.

Starting in goal - my guess is Luongo at this stage.

mdubz · 07-20-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by iamca

Lazy and doesn't play well.defensively.

Columbus used him in every situation and he played them all well. You don't remember the game where we were on a 5 on 3 and he scored against us short handed?

moon · 07-20-2013, 10:50 AM

The US has one defenseman and maybe one forward that would make team Canada.

As we have seen with single elimination tournaments anyone can win but the skaters for the US team look like Canada C team.

MrMastodonFarm · 07-20-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruttiger

Not a chance. My 8 month old daughter has as much of a chance as either of those two of getting named to this team. You don't drop two raw rookies into the highest stakes tournament in the world on a country with Canada's depth at forward.
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If either of them are the best 12 Canadian forwards at the time, you take them. Hate this idea of leaving guys out because they are too young or raw. It's this kind of backward thinking that left Sidney Crosby off the 2006 Olympic team when he was in the middle of a 102 point season.

H2SO4(aq) · 07-20-2013, 10:51 AM

4 pages and still no mention of Ragin' Stagan...

PlayfulGenius · 07-20-2013, 11:17 AM

I agree the Nash hate is bizarre. He was one of Canada's most consistent forwards last time, and the most dominant on the forecheck.

I'm not suggesting he makes the team, per se, but to say he's terrible and lazy is just admitting you don't watch the guy much.

tomo · 07-20-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Miniac

However, beyond goaltending ofc, this could potential be the best team Canada roster ever.

Say what?!
How young are you?

Are you old enough to remember 1987?

Dienasty · 07-20-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by iamca

Lazy and doesn't play well.defensively.

Lol are you crazy? No one was knocking his defensive game or compete level, they were mad that he wasn't scoring. Everyone was praising his 2 way game in playoffs, he got all that crap because he didn't score at a pace people expected.

How many goals did Crosby, Malkin, toews, score against Boston in their series?

Nash is taking all this flak because a) he requested a trade and people didn't like it and b) although being one of the best forwards all around in the playoffs for 2 rounds on nyr, he didn't score enough goals so the pundits ripped him. Even though he had 42 shots in 12 post season games. With a 2.4 shooting percentage, that tells me he was unlucky in a small sample size.

PlayfulGenius · 07-20-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dienasty

My lines

Tavares-Crosby-stamkos
Nash-getzlaf-perry
Couture-toews-giroux
Benn-Bergeron- E. Staal

Weber- doughty
Keith-pietroangelo
Seabrook-subban
Girardi

Price
Ward
Luongo

This looks really solid to me. I'm sure they'll keep Getzlaf and Perry together but it's kind of a shame because I think Perry would be the ideal RW to play with Crosby.

Tavares - Crosby - Stamkos looks lethal, my concern is there would be too much pressure on Crosby to be the lead forechecker.

Staal - Crosby - Stamkos would be more effective, I think.

Tavares is an emerging star (not so emerging anymore, I guess) but I have a hard time fitting him in on the lines...perhaps it's just I haven't seen him play enough as I rarely watch the Islanders.

Enoch Root · 07-20-2013, 11:32 AM

The US seems to have more depth every year.

And their goaltending depth is fantastic, no question about it.

However, you only need one goalie to get hot, you can't play 4 of them.

And the Canadian D is significantly better than the US IMO.

Also, you DO play 4 Cs. And the difference between Canada's Cs and the US is huge. And on big ice, that will really come into play.

I really hope Nash isn't on the team - I would like to see someone younger and blazing fast. Though Hall wouldn't be my choice, I would prefer him to Nash. I would love to see MacKinnon on the LW showing off his speed and compete level, adding some youthful energy to the team.

Dienasty · 07-20-2013, 11:32 AM

Just another note on Nash, his shootout record for the last three years are 4/9 3/7 and 5/12. Pretty nice to have that on the roster just in case.

Dienasty · 07-20-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

This looks really solid to me. I'm sure they'll keep Getzlaf and Perry together but it's kind of a shame because I think Perry would be the ideal RW to play with Crosby.

Tavares - Crosby - Stamkos looks lethal, my concern is there would be too much pressure on Crosby to be the lead forechecker.

Staal - Crosby - Stamkos would be more effective, I think.

Tavares is an emerging star (not so emerging anymore, I guess) but I have a hard time fitting him in on the lines...perhaps it's just I haven't seen him play enough as I rarely watch the Islanders.

I totally agree with you, but Crosby setting up two pure snipers would be exciting, I think putting staal to dig and get the puck out of the corners could work nicely.

I really like the Getz,Nash, perry line, imagine the cycle game those three would display. I could see full shifts where they just dominate down low. It reminds me of that dominant line in the world championships when nash, Getz heatley were the most dominant line of the tourney, and had a glorious scoring chance almost every shift.