Maybe that "effortlessness" is it. It's just every time I saw Monahan and Gaudreau completely dominate team Black, Jankowski would be on the ice against them looking like he was lost. It possibly could be because those two are that good together and Jankowski didn't have chemistry with any guys he was playing with. Who knows, but it did seem as though Monahan and Gaudreau were miles ahead of Jankowski in my opinion.
I will admit though, I didn't watch the third period, so things could have changed then.
Janko's line was all over the Red team in the 3rd period.
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I dont think you'll have a goon riding shotgun with Baert and Monahan or Monahan and Gadreau, that would only kill any offense. Ideally, you would put a power forward with speed , physicality and finish. Although I do think Monahan is quite big himself
I dont think you'll have a goon riding shotgun with Baert and Monahan or Monahan and Gadreau, that would only kill any offense. Ideally, you would put a power forward with speed , physicality and finish. Although I do think Monahan is quite big himself
Yeah if Monahan, Jankowski, Backlund, and Knight are our core centers going forward, its some pretty good size at the position.
With the high level of smarts Gaudreau and Monahan are two guys that can play with anyone, they make their line mates better hockey players.
I am beyond excited for Monahan.
I think this is also an important point for the nervous nellies worried about Gaudreau jumping ship. You show him (or any of our prospects) that they will have other good young players to play with when they get there, then they'll be more motivated to sign.
A good prospect pool pays dividends in multiple ways.
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If you want to see them get injured, okay. There was a reason Gretzky had Semenko on the wing.
At 18 Sean Monahan is 6'2, 190 pounds. He isn't the type of player that's pushed around either.
Gaudreau has made his entire career out of being amazingly shifty at avoiding any type of punishment, if he's to make the NHL that trait will need to transition to the NHL too.
This isn't the 80's anymore, the times of a talented player needed a pure good riding shotgun are long gone.
I dont think you'll have a goon riding shotgun with Baert and Monahan or Monahan and Gadreau, that would only kill any offense. Ideally, you would put a power forward with speed , physicality and finish. Although I do think Monahan is quite big himself
Yeah having Monaham playing with one of them, all you need is someone who can set the tone, not necessarily a goon. My point was if you had the two small guys playing together.
If you want to see them get injured, okay. There was a reason Gretzky had Semenko on the wing.
Semenko couldn't have spent too much time on Gretzky's wing if he was putting up 15-20 points in seasons where Gretzky was putting up 200. In reality, Semenko only got the occasional shift with Gretzky and Kurri.
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Hopefully Ferland develops enough to ride shotgun on the 2nd line at least. Probably too high of hopes for him, though who really knows how far Ferland will develop with his commitment this season.
Will be interesting to see who gets on and stays on the roster. Flames have a surplus of top 9 prospects now for sure, with at least another draft of higher picks (if not 2). Will be curious to see who actually ends up having a long career with the Flames.
I think this is also an important point for the nervous nellies worried about Gaudreau jumping ship. You show him (or any of our prospects) that they will have other good young players to play with when they get there, then they'll be more motivated to sign.
A good prospect pool pays dividends in multiple ways.
I completely agree, young players should like what they see coming to the Flames as there is an opportunity to play with other young players and an opportunity to have some good ice time.
I think Gaudreau playing with other young talent does get him excited. From the Flames' article on Gaudreau and Monahan today, Johnny talking about Monahan:
“Hopefully I get to play with him someday, he makes me a better player.
“With him on the ice, he’s an extremely talented player and it makes it a lot easier.”
Gaudreau continued with the superlatives about Monahan, saying the group improved from their performance on Saturday.
“At practices, we’ve been clicking pretty well together, so it’s been a good fit for me to play with a good guy like that,” Gaudreau said.
Semenko couldn't have spent too much time on Gretzky's wing if he was putting up 15-20 points in seasons where Gretzky was putting up 200. In reality, Semenko only got the occasional shift with Gretzky and Kurri.
If it wasn't Semenko, they'd have someone on the ice who could keep order, such as McSorely.
The thing is we don't have anyone on defence other than Gio or SOB who will drop the gloves. Another guy like Breen would really balance out our defence.
Bottom line is we're the smallest team in the NHL and pairing up our two smallest players doesn't sound like a good idea.
That's awesome. Did he know about your band, or did he just take your word for it that he wasn't filming a promo for some kinky fat guy masturbation website?
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I wrote a new article which basically a summary of my thoughts on each player over the first 5 days. I included what I think their potential is if things work out, and the percent chance I thing they have of reaching that. Link in sig.
Potential Stars
82 Jonathan Gillies – Starter – 80% – He is a very large goalie who is also fairly quick with his legs, glove hand and blocker. The only weakness that I could see in his game is that he gets a little unsettled when he has to move laterally and that he is not overly quick while doing that. By in large the only times that anyone scored on him was when they got him moving. He is by far the best goalie prospect that we’ve had since Trevor Kidd.
53 Johnny Gaudreau – 1st line LW/RW – 50% – If he was 6-0, that percentage would be very close to 100%. He does everything at the highest level. There is nothing that I could say that hasn’t already been said about him. The only question mark is whether or not he will adapt well to the NHL and become the next Briere or St. Louis, or not.
23 Sean Monahan – 1st line C – 70% – He does not look like your usual 18 year old prospect. He could easily slot in on the opening day roster without issue. He is excellent in the faceoff circle, with good on ice vision and a great shot. Had instant chemistry with Johnny Gaudreau, and really any other player that played with him. I would actually prefer that he went back to juniors so he can be a dominant force this year and get the experience of being a winner under his belt, especially after being on a bad Ottawa team. The only reason why I don’t think he’ll be a 1st line center is that we are trending towards a top 5 pick each of the next two seasons and there are a couple of exceptional ones in Reinhart and McDavid the next two years. There is no chance in my opinion outside of injury that he does not become an above average NHLer.
47 Sven Baertschi – 1st line LW – 60% – A tireless worker and very skilled. All Flames fans are familiar with Sven. I think that his floor is that of Jiri Hudler. A skilled winger that will put 50-60 points up. If he does develop, he could be a star.
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I wrote a new article which basically a summary of my thoughts on each player over the first 5 days. I included what I think their potential is if things work out, and the percent chance I thing they have of reaching that. Link in sig.
Potential Stars
82 Jonathan Gillies – Starter – 80% – He is a very large goalie who is also fairly quick with his legs, glove hand and blocker. The only weakness that I could see in his game is that he gets a little unsettled when he has to move laterally and that he is not overly quick while doing that. By in large the only times that anyone scored on him was when they got him moving. He is by far the best goalie prospect that we’ve had since Trevor Kidd.
53 Johnny Gaudreau – 1st line LW/RW – 50% – If he was 6-0, that percentage would be very close to 100%. He does everything at the highest level. There is nothing that I could say that hasn’t already been said about him. The only question mark is whether or not he will adapt well to the NHL and become the next Briere or St. Louis, or not.
23 Sean Monahan – 1st line C – 70% – He does not look like your usual 18 year old prospect. He could easily slot in on the opening day roster without issue. He is excellent in the faceoff circle, with good on ice vision and a great shot. Had instant chemistry with Johnny Gaudreau, and really any other player that played with him. I would actually prefer that he went back to juniors so he can be a dominant force this year and get the experience of being a winner under his belt, especially after being on a bad Ottawa team. The only reason why I don’t think he’ll be a 1st line center is that we are trending towards a top 5 pick each of the next two seasons and there are a couple of exceptional ones in Reinhart and McDavid the next two years. There is no chance in my opinion outside of injury that he does not become an above average NHLer.
47 Sven Baertschi – 1st line LW – 60% – A tireless worker and very skilled. All Flames fans are familiar with Sven. I think that his floor is that of Jiri Hudler. A skilled winger that will put 50-60 points up. If he does develop, he could be a star.
You don't remember Kidd before he came into the NHL, It's a compliment actually. He looked like he could be a top tier goalie and was pretty good initially. However, his development path took the same route that Dion Phaneuf's did. Good success to start and then it stagnated and eventually declined.
Gillies has the potential to be a star goalie (top 5 in the league good) if he gets a little quicker. Everyone had a really hard time beating him when they were shooting at him. The only easier way to score on him was to get him moving and hope that an opening got created.
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