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Yes 18 10.59%
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:20 PM   #81
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Ugh. I get too worked up about this issue to even read half of these posts. As long as incidents like this are still happening in the world, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...n-boy-crm.html, the men's rights groups can shove it as far as I'm concerned. 8 years old. EIGHT YEARS OLD.

ETA: Ok, maybe they don't need to shove it. But I think more important issues than the "cry rape" are at hand. False accusations are a big deal, yes. But what is happening in our society to lead to these crimes against women and children? What is happening to boys and men in our society to lead 16-year olds from normal families in Calgary to be raping 8 year olds in a park? To men spiking drinks at clubs with drugs? To men date-raping women? I just don't understand.

False accusations are important and shouldn't be overlooked. But there are far, FAR, more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assualts IMO.
I disagree. All the above are horrible and all those actions ruin lives. Much like what I said in the rape comedy thread, "There are so many horrible things happening in this world and rape doesn't trump them. It stands with them." Every potential life ruining crime deserves attention.

I've had the pleasure of facing a false accusation. Not rape, but it was just a serious. I'm fortunate I was in a hospital during the said time of the "crime" or I would have been in big trouble. Not much happened to her though. Actually, there was no repercussion for lying.
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
Are you suggesting that they are lying? You wouldn't be blaming the victim now, would you?
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Ugh. I get too worked up about this issue to even read half of these posts. As long as incidents like this are still happening in the world, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...n-boy-crm.html, the men's rights groups can shove it as far as I'm concerned. 8 years old. EIGHT YEARS OLD.

ETA: Ok, maybe they don't need to shove it. But I think more important issues than the "cry rape" are at hand. False accusations are a big deal, yes. But what is happening in our society to lead to these crimes against women and children? What is happening to boys and men in our society to lead 16-year olds from normal families in Calgary to be raping 8 year olds in a park? To men spiking drinks at clubs with drugs? To men date-raping women? I just don't understand.

False accusations are important and shouldn't be overlooked. But there are far, FAR, more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assualts IMO.
Who, besides the makers of these posters who nobody seems to be supporting, has said anything to the contrary?
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
I didn't realize that this was a scientific study with a wide sample size. It's a thread about a topic that will naturally attract comments from people who have had involvement with it.
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False accusations are important and shouldn't be overlooked. But there are far, FAR, more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assualts IMO.
Who is trying to trivialize rape here? False accusations of rape, while not as damaging as being the victim of rape (this is only my opinion of course, given that I have not been the victim of either) is still something that some men have to deal with and therefore, merits attention. What does it matter if there are "far, FAR more urgent issues" to be addressed? Your view on this is ridiculous.
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Who is trying to trivialize rape here? False accusations of rape, while not as damaging as being the victim of rape (this is only my opinion of course, given that I have not been the victim of either) is still something that some men have to deal with and therefore, merits attention. What does it matter if there are "far, FAR more urgent issues" to be addressed? Your view on this is ridiculous.
I believe Peanut is female.....this might his a bit close to home.
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I didn't realize that this was a scientific study with a wide sample size. It's a thread about a topic that will naturally attract comments from people who have had involvement with it.
Hey man, like Glenn Beck, I'm just asking questions.
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
In fairness, I don't know if a woman punching herself in the head and screaming RAPE! at her apartment door of get out of paying to fix my 85 Trans Am truly counts as a false accusation. But I still voted yes.
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
Itdepends where the 1-2% number comes from. Is that based on people coming forward and pressing charges? Is that based on investigation findings? That number is tossed around without any reference to it. It also could be under reported.

CP is also a skewed demograhpic to younger males which means they are in the prime demographic to be accused falsely.

Lots of practical reasons.
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Itdepends where the 1-2% number comes from. Is that based on people coming forward and pressing charges? Is that based on investigation findings? That number is tossed around without any reference to it. It also could be under reported.

CP is also a skewed demograhpic to younger males which means they are in the prime demographic to be accused falsely.

Lots of practical reasons.
So older people never were young so they skipped that increased likelihood?
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
i voted that i had been, but to be fair, in my case it was an ex-girlfriend of a year or so saying she would claim rape if i broke up with her, there was no specific instance at all.She didn't go through with it and i was never accused, but the issue arose for me and so i voted yes. i suspect this and unreported experiences like it are the reason for the skewed poll numbers.

Oh and by the way the male rights movement is stupid. And problems like the one i confronted are very miniscule when juxtaposed with an actual instance of rape.
wanted to stay out of the debate, but i don't particularly enjoy the insinuation that this board is full of rapists, thank you.
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Ugh. I get too worked up about this issue to even read half of these posts. As long as incidents like this are still happening in the world, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...n-boy-crm.html, the men's rights groups can shove it as far as I'm concerned. 8 years old. EIGHT YEARS OLD.

ETA: Ok, maybe they don't need to shove it. But I think more important issues than the "cry rape" are at hand. False accusations are a big deal, yes. But what is happening in our society to lead to these crimes against women and children? What is happening to boys and men in our society to lead 16-year olds from normal families in Calgary to be raping 8 year olds in a park? To men spiking drinks at clubs with drugs? To men date-raping women? I just don't understand.

False accusations are important and shouldn't be overlooked. But there are far, FAR, more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assualts IMO.
I don't think anyone was claiming that actual rape/abuse isn't really important. It's not an either/or scenario. Lots of people in this thread are just discussing how damaging false accusations can be, no one's saying they're more important than actual rape.

I don't think it's really relevant to say that men's right activists should "shove it" because there are "far FAR more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assaults". That's like saying police shouldn't worry about vehicle thefts because people get murdered.
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i voted that i had been, but to be fair, in my case it was an ex-girlfriend of a year or so saying she would claim rape if i broke up with her, there was no specific instance at all.She didn't go through with it and i was never accused, but the issue arose for me and so i voted yes. i suspect this and unreported experiences like it are the reason for the skewed poll numbers.
So basically you voted incorrectly?
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Anyone else find it weird that dudes on CP claim they've been falsely accused of sexual assault 6x-12x higher than the estimated average?
Alarming? Yes.

Weird or surprising? No.
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Ugh. I get too worked up about this issue to even read half of these posts. As long as incidents like this are still happening in the world, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...n-boy-crm.html, the men's rights groups can shove it as far as I'm concerned. 8 years old. EIGHT YEARS OLD.

ETA: Ok, maybe they don't need to shove it. But I think more important issues than the "cry rape" are at hand. False accusations are a big deal, yes. But what is happening in our society to lead to these crimes against women and children? What is happening to boys and men in our society to lead 16-year olds from normal families in Calgary to be raping 8 year olds in a park? To men spiking drinks at clubs with drugs? To men date-raping women? I just don't understand.

False accusations are important and shouldn't be overlooked. But there are far, FAR, more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assualts IMO.
I think most people share this view, men and women but that statement and similar ones always feel to me like women blaming all men rather than blaming ther perpatrator. You might not be intending to say this but this is how I read it.

I get frusterated in these types of discussions when men as a gender are blamed for rape and rape culture. Men as a gender arent to blame for rape. Rapists are to blame for rape.
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I don't think it's really relevant to say that men's right activists should "shove it" because there are "far FAR more urgent issues to be addressed regarding sexual assaults". That's like saying police shouldn't worry about vehicle thefts because people get murdered.
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So basically you voted incorrectly?
I don't know, I'd say he voted correctly. By saying she would claim he raped her she was pretty much falsely accusing him, not broadcasting it to more people doesn't change that.
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So basically you voted incorrectly?
sorry bout that, errors like mine may be responsible for the skewed numbers.

still this is not a forum where rapists hang out and talk hockey, and that was my general point.
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