[News] 21 players have filed for salary arbitrartion. UPD: All 21 players settle - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

sureLoss · 07-10-2013, 03:44 PM

http://www.nhlpa.com/news/21-players...ry-arbitration

Players can still negotiate a contract before arbitration begins.

With the new CBA teams cannot walk away if salary awarded is less than $3.5 million

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Detroit Red Wings
Brendan Smith
Edmonton Oilers
Sam Gagner
Los Angeles Kings
Trevor Lewis
Alec Martinez
Jake Muzzin
Jordan Nolan
Montreal Canadiens
Ryan White
Nashville Predators
Nick Spaling
New York Islanders
Josh Bailey
New York Rangers
Mats Zuccarello
Ottawa Senators
Eric Condra
Pittsburgh Penguins
Robert Bortuzzo
St. Louis Blues
Chris Stewart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mark Fraser
Carl Gunnarsson
Vancouver Canucks
Dale Weise
Winnipeg Jets
Zach Bogosian
Bryan Little
Paul Postma
Eric Tangradi
Blake Wheeler

nightfx · 07-10-2013, 03:48 PM

Some key players for the Jets

handgroen · 07-10-2013, 03:48 PM

no brodie?

sureLoss · 07-10-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by handgroen

no brodie?

Don't think he was eligible for arbitration

Savvy27 · 07-10-2013, 03:51 PM

Very curious to see what Chris Stewart gets. Blake Wheeler too.

dammage79 · 07-10-2013, 03:54 PM

Wheeler probably gets an arb reward over 3.5. Question is, does Winnipeg feel he is worth over 3.5. Heck even Bryan Little too.

Yeah, outside of that seems like Stewart is the only other RFA going to arbitration that looks like he could get rewarded over 3.5

handgroen · 07-10-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Wheeler probably gets an arb reward over 3.5. Question is, does Winnipeg feel he is worth over 3.5. Heck even Bryan Little too.

Yeah, outside of that seems like Stewart is the only other RFA going to arbitration that looks like he could get rewarded over 3.5

i think both those players are worth over 3.5

Cheerio · 07-10-2013, 03:57 PM

I think LA is gonna get screwed by this

dammage79 · 07-10-2013, 04:11 PM

I'd wouldn't cry if the Flames made a hard push to acquire either Wheeler or Little. Wheeler may be expendable with the arrival of Setoguchi.

moon · 07-10-2013, 04:13 PM

Slighty OT but any reason why the no walk away if under 3.5 million clause was included in the CBA?

That seems like an awful deal for the owners and a way to nickle and dime a team to death with mediocre guys getting a million more than they should with.

As mentioned LA look like they could get screwed with those guys all being under 3.5 million but being over priced based on the two play-off runs.

PegCityFlamesFan · 07-10-2013, 04:13 PM

Not worries about any Jets players. Seto doesn't replace Wheeler.

Parallex · 07-10-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio

I think LA is gonna get screwed by this

Is L.A. that hard up against the cap?

FlamesAddiction · 07-10-2013, 04:34 PM

I wonder what Sam Gagner gets and what the number is that the Oilers walk away from.

Parallex · 07-10-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Slighty OT but any reason why the no walk away if under 3.5 million clause was included in the CBA?

That seems like an awful deal for the owners and a way to nickle and dime a team to death with mediocre guys getting a million more than they should with.

Because the CBA isn't determined by the sole whims of the owners.

tempz · 07-10-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Slighty OT but any reason why the no walk away if under 3.5 million clause was included in the CBA?

Not OT at all, I was wondering this too. This is interesting:

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Originally Posted by moon

Salary Arbitration Walk Away rights will be limited to awards equal to or greater than $3.5 million per annum (which amount shall be indexed to the percentage increase in ALS starting with 2013/14 as the base year, with 2014/15 being the first year such increase shall take effect)..

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http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA...%20%281%29.pdf

Meaning it is $3.5 million this year and will be going up if the ALS goes up which will surely increase when the cap increases. Maybe too many teams were letting lower end players go to arbitration instead of actually negotiating with them? Maybe this is the NHL's way to try and save some arbitration resources? I'm not sure.

tempz · 07-10-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Parallex

Because the CBA isn't determined by the sole whims of the owners.

You may be right but it seems like a weird clause to me. I mean chances are if you're a RFA and your team walks away from an arbitration offer under $3.5 million making you a UFA that some team is going to bite. Gives the player more power too.

moon · 07-10-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Parallex

Because the CBA isn't determined by the sole whims of the owners.

It should be!

That said, it isn't like the option is walk away from any ruling or walk away from 3.5 million and under.

Seems like a number that I would have wanted to work with if I was the owners and again something that could really screw them. Don't see it being a big sticking point with the players as it only helps out the lower end guys they usually like to screw and could hurt some teams in terms of cap space.

ricardodw · 07-10-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd wouldn't cry if the Flames made a hard push to acquire either Wheeler or Little. Wheeler may be expendable with the arrival of Setoguchi.

Not even close. (re. Setoguchi)... Wheeler is playing for the Jets like they wanted him to play in Boston..... He has been a top 3 forward for the Jets for the last 2 years.

Little is a bit small... But Wheeler is big and started playing like it..... Maybe Ladd has been a good influence.

Bogosian is the really hard one to figure out in arbitration. He would likely be the Flames #1 guy but he has been nicked and missed 15 games last year and 17 the year before. He is only 23 next week and has shown to be a solid top 4 if not top 2 NHL d-man.

metroneck · 07-10-2013, 04:58 PM

Does filing for arbitration have any effect on possible contract offers from other teams, or does the player become 'protected'.

For that matter, when an RFA is qualified, does that protect the team from an offersheet?

For me, it really boils down to I want a team to offersheet Tanev, just to screw the Canucks, and for what they'd have to give up, I'm kinda surprised it has not happened.

CaptainCrunch · 07-10-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I wonder what Sam Gagner gets and what the number is that the Oilers walk away from.

Between 4 and 5 per year is what he probably wants. I don't see him getting less then that. As much as we think he's meh, he has been one of the best forwards on a dreadful team and that's going to count for a lot.

I'm guess 4.25, Oilers won't walk away no matter what.