07-05-2013, 08:11 PM
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#202
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Go get 'em Iggy!
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07-05-2013, 08:11 PM
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#203
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Mango
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Hmmm. Didn't find anything interesting or of particular note in the article. Thanks for posting the link though as I had yet to read any articles on the subject.
Any comments from the tools on TSN or Sportsnet?
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07-05-2013, 08:12 PM
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#204
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by jonesy
I think people in Calgary started getting this bad feeling that maybe our best guy was the problem. I remember thinking a few years ago that we changed coaches, gms, all the core players and the only constant was Iginla.
I know he is suspposed to be a great guy, and I believe he is in general, but it seems he might be hard to coach and he might have been part of the 'problem' in the past years when Calgary was supposed to be a good team. Seems counter intuitive since he was always the best player and was one of those unsettling thoughts that you push away and hope isn't true.
To be honest i thought it would be much more painful to have him go.
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Yeah, plenty of speculation among us here about Iggy and coaches. But never much in the media. Outside of the Story about Iggy claiming Brent Sutter used too many Junior coaching tactics.
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07-05-2013, 08:23 PM
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#205
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn
Yeah, plenty of speculation among us here about Iggy and coaches. But never much in the media. Outside of the Story about Iggy claiming Brent Sutter used too many Junior coaching tactics.
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But now that he's been traded once and signed with a different team it'll be easy to start throwing these things around despite little proof or actual knowledge.
But easy to write articles stating no one wanted to touch him when the top 3 or 4 teams in the leauge were bidding for his services to take them through the final round and we now know a serious contender for next years cup wanted to give him a go after playing a series against him.
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07-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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#206
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Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jonesy
I think people in Calgary started getting this bad feeling that maybe our best guy was the problem. I remember thinking a few years ago that we changed coaches, gms, all the core players and the only constant was Iginla.
I know he is suspposed to be a great guy, and I believe he is in general, but it seems he might be hard to coach and he might have been part of the 'problem' in the past years when Calgary was supposed to be a good team. Seems counter intuitive since he was always the best player and was one of those unsettling thoughts that you push away and hope isn't true.
To be honest i thought it would be much more painful to have him go.
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I can understand that, but the Flames best guy became the problem after 2008-2009. Sutter didn't feel like re-signing a 40 goal scorer was important, he went big game hunting instead (which Feaster is crucified for) and got Bouwmeester who scored a whopping 3 the next season.
Tack on an aging goalie who can't put up good numbers without a strict defensive system, a d-man who piled onto the coach at the end of the season, and a new head coach who refuses to even think about tinkering with his lineup for more goals. Iginla still got 30+ in all his seasons under Brent Sutter.
The Flames blew themselves up in a matter of essentially 1 offseason, then delayed their own rebuild by getting garbage in trades like Kotalik. Stajan, Hagman, White, Mayers were the Leafs garbage.
Honestly, I still feel like Iginla was let down rather than the supremely rotted core of the team.
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07-05-2013, 08:33 PM
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#207
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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A games played bonus, isn't that just an inducement for him to play it safe so he doesn't get injured.
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07-05-2013, 08:37 PM
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#208
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
A games played bonus, isn't that just an inducement for him to play it safe so he doesn't get injured.
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Serious question: how would healthy-scratches affect this?
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07-05-2013, 08:40 PM
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#209
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Franchise Player
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Think Iggy made a wise decision. He made a good decision to go the the Pens and provided the Flames a chance to rebuild. Too bad it didn't work out for him the first time. But i sure hope he gets it this time. Bruins is still the team to beat in the east and still is a Cup contender, more so than the Pens with their pushover defense.
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07-05-2013, 08:42 PM
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#210
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Lifetime Suspension
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Jarome who?
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07-05-2013, 08:50 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Holy 1.8 mill cap hit without bonuses. Crazy
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07-05-2013, 08:55 PM
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#212
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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
I can understand that, but the Flames best guy became the problem after 2008-2009. Sutter didn't feel like re-signing a 40 goal scorer was important, he went big game hunting instead (which Feaster is crucified for) and got Bouwmeester who scored a whopping 3 the next season.
Tack on an aging goalie who can't put up good numbers without a strict defensive system, a d-man who piled onto the coach at the end of the season, and a new head coach who refuses to even think about tinkering with his lineup for more goals. Iginla still got 30+ in all his seasons under Brent Sutter.
The Flames blew themselves up in a matter of essentially 1 offseason, then delayed their own rebuild by getting garbage in trades like Kotalik. Stajan, Hagman, White, Mayers were the Leafs garbage.
Honestly, I still feel like Iginla was let down rather than the supremely rotted core of the team.
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If the flames had kept cammalleri and not signed bouwmeester, this rebuild probably would have happened earlier.
In a roundabout way, I agree with you.
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07-05-2013, 08:56 PM
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#213
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Originally Posted by standinmotion
Serious question: how would healthy-scratches affect this?
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healthy scratches do not count as games played.
If he needs to hit 50 games played and plays 49 but then a healthy scratch, no bonus.
I don't think we'll see him as a healthy scratch next year, though, it wouldn't be the most shocking thing to happen.
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07-05-2013, 08:59 PM
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#214
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by standinmotion
Serious question: how would healthy-scratches affect this?
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I don't know, you'd have to look at the contract but in old time hockey an owner wouldn't think twice if it saved him some money.
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07-05-2013, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
If the flames had kept cammalleri and not signed bouwmeester, this rebuild probably would have happened earlier.
In a roundabout way, I agree with you.
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I also think that Iginla indeed became complacent with Brent Sutter and the roster in 2011-2012.
The Flames started to unravel when Darryl gambled on Jokinen as the first line C and it didn't work. Then he did it again and it didn't work. Then he brought Tanguay back, who didn't work the first time.
Darryl Sutter basically gave us an iteration of how not to blow it up. It's stupid to think that Feaster may bail the team out of what got them into this mess in the first place, by failing when big game hunting.
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07-05-2013, 09:09 PM
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#216
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The George
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Didn't Hossa try this strategy already?
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07-05-2013, 09:15 PM
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#217
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cambodia
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Originally Posted by pgsieve
Didn't Hossa try this strategy already?
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He did, and he has two Cup rings to show for it. It didn't work for him as a short term rental for the Penguins or during his one year contract with team that knocked his Penguins out of the playoffs, but the third time was the charm. Hopefully it's the same for Iginla.
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07-05-2013, 09:35 PM
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#218
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browna
Shocked for a number of reasons, that he stayed out east. Very interesting.
And as for the Bruins and the Flames, no matter how loud MMF crows about it, there are/were certainly ill feelings from the Boston side to Feaster (but never Iginla) about the way he handled the situation.
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100% BS right here.
You obviously didn't watch the press conference from the Bruins after the deal fell through. Peter Chiarelli went out of his way to say it wasn't Feaster's fault, that he likes Feaster and trusts him, etc. He essentially put the blame on Iginla exercising his right to pick his team. Unless you want to imply that Chiarelli was just lying there?
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...trade-nhl.html
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He didn't blame Feaster, called him a "gentleman" and said he didn't think "there was anything nefarious on Jay's part."
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He didn't blame Iginla either.
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07-05-2013, 09:46 PM
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#219
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Scoring Winger
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Iggy should've went to the bruins in the first place, fits his playing style for sure. Him and Milan on a line would be deadly!!
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07-05-2013, 09:57 PM
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#220
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So if it doesn't work next season does he sign with the next finals loser ???
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