[Rumour] Flames ownership squashed Seguin to Flames

[devo22]

If the rumour is true, then good on them. Seems they are committed to a full proper rebuild without trying to find shortcuts, and that's a positive. Seguin's a very talented young player, but we are at the beginning of the rebuild and I believe we now have to stockpile young assets. Seguin would have cost a lot (really, some people here seem to underestimate Eriksson quite a bit) and he simply isn't worth giving up three good young assets. You make this kind of trade in later stages of the rebuild when you have amassed many young promising pieces and you can afford to give up 2 or 3 of them to get the final piece of the rebuild. We're far away from that point and I'm happy that the rumours of dealing Sven, Johnny etc are over for now.

[sworkhard]

Originally Posted by fotze

I feel good they quashed it. but wonder why Feaster would want to do this in the first place. Of course can't be too sure about what would have been given up, but dumping multiple assets of which we have very little would just have set us back more. It would be Seguin and not much else for 5 years. Then on top of that to put all your eggs in a risky boozey basket.

Maybe understandable if it was a rock solid young star but not one with huge question marks surrounding him.

Maybe Edwards/ownership is looking down the road instead of the next playoff for once.

I think Feaster is trying to rebuild quickly, and occasionally becomes a little to excited at the prospect of acquiring a certain player, even though that player doesn't necessarily fit the identity of the team going forward. I have no problem with ownership asking the right questions and adding some sober second thoughts as part of the process to ensure that the rebuild is primarily done correctly.

[Street Pharmacist]

I don't have a problem with this

[Dagger]

What a joke. You hike ticket prices every year to say your a cap team, and then when a premier young talent becomes available who is everything this team needs you flake out because of a sub 6m price tag.....anyone willing to guess why Brad Richards was worth more than that for longer? Or why ROR was worth similar dollars? What a joke.

[kyuss275]

In order for it to get to ownership, it would have had to start with Feaster, and then KK would have had to be on board with it to take it to ownership. You guys are implying that ownership thought Feasters and KK idea was horrible so they nixed it? I don't buy it. If KK is on board this ownership will do it. It never got to the stage where ownership had to think about the money. Feaster more than likely did not like the asking price.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Fire

I don't believe it because it makes no sense. At 5.75 million it's not an overpayment. Depending on what the deal would be I can't see the owners being against a young #1 center coming to the Flames.

Its not about the dollar amount. Its about the assets they'd have to give up to land a big name centre. At this stage of the rebuild it would just be too costly. Sure you land Seguin, but if you lose Baertshi, Brodie, along with guys like Gio or Glencross in the process, how much further ahead are you?

The Flames need to continue to stock the cupboards, not give away good assets for a big name. They can do that once they have enough to trade away and still ice a promising team.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by fotze

I feel good they quashed it. but wonder why Feaster would want to do this in the first place. Of course can't be too sure about what would have been given up, but dumping multiple assets of which we have very little would just have set us back more. It would be Seguin and not much else for 5 years. Then on top of that to put all your eggs in a risky boozey basket.

Maybe understandable if it was a rock solid young star but not one with huge question marks surrounding him.

Maybe Edwards/ownership is looking down the road instead of the next playoff for once.

My thoughts exactly. Why was Feaster doing this? That is more problematic than ownership meddling, especially when the owners are the ones with the sensible decision.

Can we please have the booze hound that requires additional staff to prevent him from sneaking out and acting like an idiot?

Thank lord we didn't get this guy.

[Thor]

My friends in Boston told me when I joked we should take Seguin off their hands, that we would be making a huge mistake, this kid is never going to live up to his potential.

I tend to think we dodged a bullet if this story is true.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Rocky Raccoon

Then why employ Feaster if they don't trust his decision making?

Why don't people understand that spending x millions requires a final call by the guy spending it.

If he is hearing the same crap about the player as us then he is completely justified in squashing it....some times a second set of eyes is a good thing.

[Dagger]

Has their been any rumoured return we'd have given for him? I'm assuming Gaudreau and 6 would be the highlights of any package...which is something you give up for Seguin every single day and not think twice.

If Monahan ever scores 67 points in this league, we should be over joyed(puts him right between J. Staal and Toews) Seguin already did that and he was 20 years old. There's more to the game than scoring, but Seguin will become a marquee player quite soon, and these aren't empty points like Jokinen in FLA or Ribeiro in DAL so to say. These are big points for an elite franchise.

[Flamboyant 14]

I don't believe this at all!

[Flame On]

We don't know that "Feaster was doing anything". Due diligence to put a package together and perhaps they all came to a consensus about the risk of the move in the end. Even before it got to a position to move forward.
Doesn't mean that Feaster was being an idiot or that management came in and over-ruled anything.

[mykalberta]

It could also be an arena announcement is on the way and the easiest way to pay for one is to have league minimum salary and hope the fans and corporate support keep paying inflated ticket prices to fund the new stadium.

From a hockey perspective I say its 50/50. One one hand why pay his salary if 2 years will be wasted on the rebuild, on the other hand it would be good to have a good player to play with young guys and give them confidence.

Not sure I would have wanted him if the off ice stories are true.

EDIT: Honestly I dont like the fact a bunch of businessmen who made/make their money from ranching and oil making hockey rebuild decisions. They should give their business a budget and allow it to operate within their budget.

Meddling owners do not make a good franchise in any league. The great thing about the Calgary Flames owners is they are known for not meddling. If this is a new trend then I for one think its disturbing.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Dagger

Has their been any rumoured return we'd have given for him? I'm assuming Gaudreau and 6 would be the highlights of any package...which is something you give up for Seguin every single day and not think twice.

If Monahan ever scores 67 points in this league, we should be over joyed(puts him right between J. Staal and Toews) Seguin already did that and he was 20 years old. There's more to the game than scoring, but Seguin will become a marquee player quite soon, and these aren't empty points like Jokinen in FLA or Ribeiro in DAL so to say. These are big points for an elite franchise.

It wasn't that long ago that people were worried that there was no way Monahan was going to be available for the Flames to draft because he was too good and likely to be snatched up in the top 5.

Now that he is a Flame you are doubting if he will ever score 67 points?!?

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Dagger

What a joke. You hike ticket prices every year to say your a cap team, and then when a premier young talent becomes available who is everything this team needs you flake out because of a sub 6m price tag.....anyone willing to guess why Brad Richards was worth more than that for longer? Or why ROR was worth similar dollars? What a joke.

This seems like a rather large overreaction to something mentioned in passing in some bruins blog. Why is this so easy to believe true Over the hundreds of other rumors from blogs that people on this site (rightfully) question as hogwash.

I guess some people will believe what they want to believe....especially if it gives another opportunity to bash ownership/management

[jeffman]

Good the ownership finally realizes what is necessary to rebuild

[Huntingwhale]

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by HitterD

This seems like a rather large overreaction to something mentioned in passing in some bruins blog. Why is this so easy to believe true Over the hundreds of other rumors from blogs that people on this site (rightfully) question as hogwash.

I guess some people will believe what they want to believe....especially if it gives another opportunity to bash ownership/management

This wasn't a blog though. The writer is a respected Bruins beat guy, so there's most likely substance to it.

I guess some people are just so oblivious to how poorly run the Flames are they just take any opportunity to not believe good sources

[JiriHrdina]

They probably squashed it before a deal was reached, don't think they had the right pieces anyways

[Coach]

I don't care about them kyboshing a Seguin deal for $$ reasons if they drop ticket prices. Unless this team is spending to the cap and being competitive, tough to justify shelling out a hundred bucks or so for one night of what is likely to be mediocre hockey.