[News] 2013 NHL Draft Results: Top 10 Team Performances - Did the Flames Make the Cut? (THW)

[cral12]

Early (very early!) impressions only; we'll obviously have to give this another 3 to 5 yrs and beyond to truly know who nailed it (or failed) at the draft table...and reconvene to discuss.

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2013 NHL Draft Results: Top 10 Team Performances

The draft has been much discussed already from the Flames point of, of course, but thoughts welcomed, especially as it pertains to this list.

Feel free to share your list as well.

[gargamel]

I really don't get the love for Vancouver's draft. With them trading Schneider, they're the only team in the league that is worse after the draft than they were before it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by gargamel

I really don't get the love for Vancouver's draft. With them trading Schneider, they're the only team in the league that is worse after the draft than they were before it.

Love them or hate them you have to commend them for a pretty good draft. If the Flames would have come out of the first round with Shinkaruk and Horvat I would have been pretty stoked so the fact that the Canucks did I have to give them props as both players will likely be contributors for the Canucks one day and the Subban pick looks pretty good as well.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Love them or hate them you have to commend them for a pretty good draft. If the Flames would have come out of the first round with Shinkaruk and Horvat I would have been pretty stoked so the fact that the Canucks did I have to give them props as both players will likely be contributors for the Canucks one day and the Subban pick looks pretty good as well.

I would be very upset if the Flames came out of the draft with Shinkaruk and Horvat rather than Monohan, Klimchuk and Poirier.

[xmyth]

i don't get why media is claiming shinkaruk is a steal considering his plunge to the mid-twenties, especially since teams had a chance to interview him.

[Itse]

From the article:

I’m not sure why Flames brass would take the chance at this point in the rebuild phase – if Shinkaruk, for some strange reason, does not excel at the next level, no one would fault them for taking him 22nd. Poirier, on the other hand, has to turn out or this pick will be yet another that haunts the scouting staff.

That is truly nonsensical logic.

The point of drafting is not shielding staff from future criticism, it's the improvement of the team.

But even if we were to accept that the Flames staff is more concerned with the optics than the actual quality of the pick, how exactly does picking a guy that the staff thinks is less likely to make it protect them from criticism in the future?

Wouldn't getting the best results be the best protection from criticism in the long run?

(Besided, I don't see how picking a guy that third of the league has passed over already can be considered a "safe" pick anywhere in the first round.)

[metroneck]

I find it funny that the media, especially a few on air personalities here in Van, are calling out Feaster and Co for not taking a kid that they know so well, and how Van stole him.

It seems to me, that they must have had a pretty good reason not to take him.

I'd have a case of the 'Seinfelds' while dating Newman's Ex. Always wondering why he dumped her...

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Overall the list seems pretty good to me. Buffalo definitely had a good draft and I can't argue with them being at the top. I was really impressed with Winnipeg and Montreal. Both of their first picks could be questionable (although I like Morrissey) but they drafted well overall.

Personally I think the Canucks are ranked too high. I didn't think they had that great of a draft overall, especially after the first two picks. I would say Winnipeg, Montreal, Edmonton and CBJ all had better drafts and should make up the top 5. Calgary should be a couple of spots higher in my opinion (around 7/8) but that could also just be my biased opinion.

Of course these are so hard to predict so soon. Only time will tell I guess.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Love them or hate them you have to commend them for a pretty good draft. If the Flames would have come out of the first round with Shinkaruk and Horvat I would have been pretty stoked so the fact that the Canucks did I have to give them props as both players will likely be contributors for the Canucks one day and the Subban pick looks pretty good as well.

Well I hate them and I'll freely admit it...but I still don't understand how that's a better draft than the Flames or the other teams ranked below them. If Subban wasn't PK's younger brother, that pick wouldn't get any fanfare.

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by xmyth

i don't get why media is claiming shinkaruk is a steal considering his plunge to the mid-twenties, especially since teams had a chance to interview him.

They always do that.

I remember the media going on about how big of a steal Angelo Esposito was, completely ignoring why so many teams passed on him.

Grand Theft Hunter? LOL. Yeah, I guess its like someone stealing your car.... if you left it in the middle of the street with doors wide open and keys in the ignition.

[Jacks]

Every time I tuned into FAN960 today they were moaning about the Flames not picking Shinkaruk. They had him on in an interview asking him how he felt about it. Wish they would shut the hell up about that already, plenty of teams weren't interested for a reason.

If anyone is interested the National Post also gave us one of the lowest grades of the Canadian teams
http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...anadian-teams/

Calgary Flames
Grade: B

Edmonton Oilers
Grade: A

Montreal Canadiens
Grade: A

Ottawa Senators
Grade: B

Toronto Maple Leafs
Grade: C

Vancouver Canucks
Grade: B+

Winnipeg Jets
Grade: A+

[tvp2003]

Allan Muir (SI.com) gave us an A: http://nhl.si.com/2013/07/01/nhl-dra...rn-conference/

[devo22]

FWIW I don't really get all the good grades that the Jets seem to get everywhere. Morrissey was a big reach at 13 and with Petan there are a lot of question marks.

[Itse]

Personally I don't see the point of grading draft picks at this point. I know the media needs to write something, but this is really just so pointless. It's inevitably all going to look ridiculous when we actually know which were the good picks.

[CalgaryFan1988]

They are grading teams based on where players were ranked.

Obviously when you go off the board, you're team is going to take a hit.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Bourque's Twin]

Feaster has drafted well. The 2 biggest question marks are Jankowski and Kanzig but we will see.

[Reign of Fire]

They just don't appreciate Feaster's draft list...

[Bezer]

I am fine with the first round even tho I wanted to flip tables at the pub after they picked Poirier but I am good with the pick now. After that I am a little annoyed with taking low rated guys with higher rated picks. So a B for me.

[Vinny01]

I wasn't sold on Poirier until i did some research but now I am stoked. Also read an article on the herald prior to the draft where Janko said he is 190 pounds now. That is 20 lbs in a year and he is not 19 until September. He is a better prospect than most non-flames fans give him credit for. Feaster and the flames scouts have had 3 promising drafts hopefully it translates into NHL success soon

[Henry Fool]

This Shinkaruk discussion has to be one of the dumbest things in this year's draft. I honestly can't wrap my head around why people are so hung up on this one player and pretend to know exactly who a team should pick in the late first round. It's weird.