So rather than call for Feasters head like a fool or give yourself a heart attack over the 22nd overall pick, how about you play the wait and see game and see how it works out and make some comments when you can actually have an educated opinion on it.
Can you point out where i called for Feaster's head?
I said others have, and ive said others had this player ranked in the third round, and ive said Feaster should release his list if he wants to avoid ongoing critique, but ive been nothing but supportive On the pick.
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Disagree. I think that Wotherspoon and Sieloff seem to be good prospects. This is a heavy forward draft. I'm not happy with the 22nd pick. That being said, I don't get paid to scout players and I'm sure they know something I don't.
I too like Wotherspoon and Sieloff however does it hurt to have another top prospect on the blueline?
Can you point out where i called for Feaster's head?
I said others have, and ive said others had this player ranked in the third round, and ive said Feaster should release his list if he wants to avoid ongoing critique, but ive been nothing but supportive On the pick.
I was also referring to the un-happy masses, but I believe you suggested Feaster should have to "supply his list" given the pick. Same #### different pile if you ask me, but sure, I guess you didn't technically ask for his head.
But my bad if you've been supportive of the pick.
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Well one poster on this board has a theory about CHL players who become the best player on their team as a 17-18 year old. That theory isn't as crazy as it can come across and Poirier looks to be the top player on his team this year and lead them to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
The way the Canadian minor hockey system is structured, it can be hard for a December kid to stand out early enough to get on rep teams and get the better ice time etc.. On the surface it appears that he had to play a year of midget to get noticed, than did okay as a CHL rookie placing as a top 4 scorer on his team, and continued to improve this past year. I remember when David Perron was a first round pick he was actually a guy who could have been picked the previous year but was a complete unknown, but after making the Q as an 18 year old, ended up a first round pick.
It's an intriguing pick and one to watch. It will put Ricardo's theory to the test.
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Everyone team has their own list. No team picks players based on TSN, the Hockey News,ISS or any other list, they go by their own. Every team thinks "we're smarter then everyone else". I'm always blown away this seems to be attributed to Feaster and company lately but oh well.
If a GM is relying on others to do his job, he isn't do it right.
Bob McKenzie's list is based on a scout survey. It's a pretty good indicator of where players will go, and thus can be used fairly accurately to assess whether trading up or down should've happened. It has strong predictive value for where guys will go in the draft.
Trading down up and down has to be part of your calculations. If you have a guy ranked well above his consensus spot, your best bet isn't a big reach, but a trade down.
Poirier wasn't the only reach in the draft, nor was he a massive reach, but he's the one I'm talking about because I happen to be a Flames fan.
Heck, if Shinkaruk wasn't on the board I probably wouldn't have minded the pick at all. But Shinkaruk is in a different class of statiscal comparables than Poirier, and that's why it's a big deal.
Well for what it is worth, and i have not seen the ISS report on him, but the oiler media read a report that said his offensive upside "is minimal". He does play a strong 200 foot Game and works very hard apparently. I think you have to pay to get that report an i dont care enough o do so.
I found it odd to say a guy who scored 30 goals could be descirbed as having "minimal" offensive upside. Dont get it.
Still, even if you consider the negative report, he still projects to be an NHL player as a role player. I dont mind that at all for a late first roundpick.
Why are we talking about Oiler media cherry picking one report? What is with this place?
I can sort of see it. Take that goal I mentioned upthread, the one at 0:42 on the highlight reel. Poirier stopped moving his legs 40 feet out and the D still couldn't catch him in time — which tells you a lot about his speed. But the NHL is a faster game all round. He wouldn't have the luxury of coasting 40 feet in the bigs while he works on faking out the goalie.
I said earlier that the video of Poirier reminds me of Paul Ranheim, and it sounds like a couple of people agree. Ranheim had that one year where he scored 68 goals in the minors, but he couldn't translate that into scoring at the NHL level. Maybe Poirier makes that transition, maybe not.
However, if his downside is a 3rd-line winger who is a whizbang penalty killer, I don't believe I'll die of hurt feelings.
Yeah those YouTube clips scream Matthew Lombardi to me.
Post draft interview with Kerr. Mentions he's a right wing who plays a little left wing. That's good that's he already comfortable on the right side.
Clearly he has no idea what he's talking about. McKenzie's list says he plays LW, and that's based on a consensus of 10, count 'em, 10 NHL scouts! I'll take their word over some silly 18-year-old kid's any day. Wouldn't you?
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Bob McKenzie's list is based on a scout survey. It's a pretty good indicator of where players will go, and thus can be used fairly accurately to assess whether trading up or down should've happened. It has strong predictive value for where guys will go in the draft.
Trading down up and down has to be part of your calculations. If you have a guy ranked well above his consensus spot, your best bet isn't a big reach, but a trade down.
Logically, it stands to reason the Flames were concerned that Montreal would take him. Trading down doesn't help in that situation. They traded down last year, thinking they could get their guy. Obviously they were concerned this time around.
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Pick analysis: Poirier is an excellent, hard-working forward who gets knocked down in this draft class mainly because of his awkward skating style, which takes too much criticism. He has an excellent stick and in-tight skills, showing a knack to score goals. His character is very high. -- Sonier
Team analysis: Compete level, skating and puck skills make him attractive. Huge scoring improvement this year, doubling his goal total. A point-per-game player. Goes to the dirty areas and takes hits to make plays. Calgary is building a solid base with hits picks this draft. -- Starman
His name surely caught fans by surprise but not scouts apparently.
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Big. Extreme wheels,great looking hands and goes hard to the net. Like Monahan he lead his team in points by a large margin.
If Feaster and the staff liked him and thought he would be gone(Anaheim) you take him. Hard to understand the hate for this pick before he has a chance to fail.
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