[GDT] The 2013 NHL Entry Draft (1pm MT TSN)

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Trade Cammalleri to Montreal for our 2nd. Draft Zykov.

forget Zykov is still there. Wow.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I want to be clear I am not critical of the players. They don't choose where they are picked and their stories have yet to be written. I am only being critical of the Flames for what I perceive as not getting maximum value on the Iginla and Bouwmeester trades. Essentially Bouwmeester was traded for a 2nd round player not a 1st unless you believe Poirier was going to be picked in the first round by another team.

The last time the Flames flat out won a trade was Kiprusoff. I can't think of any others honestly.

At least Feaster got first round picks for trading away one of the team's best players. Part of the reason the team sucks is that Phaneuf garnered junk (same as all trades with the Leafs)

I'd rather focus on the drafting part of the draft, not the trade part though.

[Ashasx]

Our draft looks a lot like Ottawa's in 2011: Zibanejad at #6, Noesen at #21 and Puempel at #24.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Don't wanna go through 50 pages of fighting to get an inkling, any good ideas on why Shinkarukvhas fallen so much? Was surprised with the 22 pick, but way too soon to get emotional as many have. Kid could end up being awesome.

Rumors are he has a me first attitude and didn't do well at the combine.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by SeoulFire

Nor have any of the posters who freak out.

posters get criticized all the time on this board... not sure where you have been. You just did it yourself.

Feaster is the GM of an NHL franchise in a hockey crazy country; the notion that he is above criticism is naive.

[Parallex]

No picks traded for marginal "win now" players, 3 skilled forwards (with the best of them being a center), no goaltenders... works for me.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well I would say ridiculed into being shut up yes.

You bring that on yourself. You didn't hesitate to say the Canucks had a better first round than the Flames only because you knew it would be inflammatory and piss people off. Great trolling and worthy of ridicule.

I'd like to address the quality of Vancouver's first round. They drafted a good player in Horvat and an interesting player in Shinkaruk. Horvat is a character guy, but with maybe limited potential. His strength is his two way game, but he went maybe a little early. Shinkaruk was the first round slipper, but that happens. Could be an interesting player. Those are the positives of the draft for Vancouver. Now the negatives. They traded away the guy everyone thought was their starting goaltender. They kept the guy who thought his days were done with the Canucks. The Canucks didn't even talk to Luongo about the deal. There is no guarantee that Luongo will even want to remain with the Canucks. They created a massive hole and goaltender controversy by moving the wrong goaltender. Good management and work at the draft. That cancels out anything positive the Canucks could have done at the draft. They are a team in disarray to be honest.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by nik-

This isn't Mario Kart, we don't compete with a ghost version of ourselves. We compete with the other teams, relatively better to our horrendous past is nice and all, but I'd rather be better compared to our competitors.

Why do you think you are so jaded though?

I get why people are bashing Feaster's picks as well, Chucko vol. 2 just seems likely given the crappy past. Mickey Renaud would have been a good leader for the Flames.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by jiginla12

Glad we didn't take Shinkaruk, obviously the kid dropped from 14th to 24th for a reason and his attitude is something I wouldn't want in the locker room. As for Poirier, I'm intrigued by Feaster's comparison to him being a 'more physical' Tanguay. We dodged a bullet and selected the real hometown boy we should have with Klimchuck.

Can there be a LESS physical Tanguay?

[sureLoss]

Montreal takes Fucale with the pick from the Cammalleri/Ramo trade

[Savvy27]

Interesting that Colorado skipped over Erne considering Roy was his coach.

I will be interested to watch Compher's career as he sounds like a player that Calgary really could have used.

[jiginla12]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Can there be a LESS physical Tanguay?

Yes, Alex Tanguay.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

posters get criticized all the time on this board... not sure where you have been.

Feaster is the GM of an NHL franchise in a hockey crazy country; the notion that he is above criticism is naive.

The reason people pile on you for being so negative about the draft picks is because you have absolutely no evidence that the drafting done by Feaster over the past 3 years is such a disaster as you claim.

Take a lot at the top 10 picks over the last 5 years? How many were as great as Pierre and the morons at TSN said they would be? Therefore how the bloody hell does anyone know who will turn out and who wouldn't? Teams have their rankings based on what their own scouts feed them in terms of information plus the interviews they do. No two lists are the same, and no list is based on what Central Scouting says.

Nobody here has a clue if Jankowski will be that #1 center we need, but he is progressing rather nicely, so that off the board pick looks to be turning out SO FAR.

Give these kids a chance. The Chucko pick was a disaster, but who knew that when they drafted him?

[Frank MetaMusil]

Button ranting about Fucale. There's a reason you aren't a GM anymore man.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Boy does Button like Fucale a LOT.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by mac_82

I bet Montreal takes Fucale with our pick.

Winner!

[Ashasx]

We can no longer draft Fucale.

[Ashasx]

A very good trade for the Oilers.

[Frank MetaMusil]

MacT with his first blockbuster.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Why do you think you are so jaded though?

I get why people are bashing Feaster's picks as well, Chucko vol. 2 just seems likely given the crappy past. Mickey Renaud would have been a good leader for the Flames.

The only thing I'm really jaded about is management. I hated that Feaster was brought on as an assistant, I hated that he was grandfathered in to be GM. I think he's bad at his job and I think before he goes he's going to #### up our club and then the next GM will have to start over.

He's going to have to do more than a couple decent deals to earn my trust, especially when he's mixing them up with near disasters.