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Old 06-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #281
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I saw a clip on TSN this morning in which Pierre Mcguire called Bo Horvat the potential "steal" of the 2013 draft. I think that if the Flames are targeting a player between 8–15 that they have their eyes set on Horvat or Domi.
I would be curious if anyone recalls Pierre's past 'steal of the draft' picks

How is his track record?

He was right when he was harping about Parise, I'll give him that
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I would be curious if anyone recalls Pierre's past 'steal of the draft' picks

How is his track record?

He was right when he was harping about Parise, I'll give him that
I remember him claiming karlsson was a huge steal when Ottawa drafted him as well.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:58 AM   #283
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who was his pet last year... TT?
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #284
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He was upset with the Flames for passing on Maatta.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:38 AM   #285
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Yes, ONE of them. Feaster isn't making decisions solely on statistical analysis and Snow isn't the only guy he's getting advice from. If you had to guess how much the statistical analysis factors in vs actual scouting what would you say?

Would you prefer the Flames completely avoided statistical analysis and video scouting? Seems like they are smart to get the most information they can in order to make informed decisions.

I think the internet gurus who rely completely on advanced statistical analysis and very little on watching the players play are out to lunch. But ignoring it completely seems pretty silly.

Paranoia is right. Since when is more information to base a decision on a bad thing? Some of you guys complain about the silliest things.
You missed what I was doing. I was feeding the paranoia of a couple of posters in a joking way.

I don't know how valid PUCKS is or how much Feaster follows it's philosophy and results but I think ignoring any tool in making good decisions may be a mistake.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:45 AM   #286
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Yeah, moneyball has nothing to do with Pucks. The NFL uses the pucks system and i am pretty sure that is where it was taken from. Don't think the NFL calls it "pucks".
In the NFL, it's HUDL, though I was really hoping it was BALLS.
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I remember him claiming karlsson was a huge steal when Ottawa drafted him as well.
He also lost his #### when the Isles took Robert Nilsson over Zach Parise at 15 in 2003. He was definitely right about that one.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:04 PM   #288
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He also went nuts in 2004 when Lauri Tukonen was dropping to the 11 spot...I remember him being angry that Florida didn't take him. Olesz maybe didn't pan out that great, but he outproduced Tukonen by a big margin.
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Screw Pierre's opinion. I'm just super nervous that the Flames make that Philly trade or trade 6th overall for later picks.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:14 PM   #290
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Screw Pierre's opinion. I'm just super nervous that the Flames make that Philly trade or trade 6th overall for later picks.
Or trade for 5 using all three first rounders to do it.
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Ya, I really want the Flames to just draft at 6th, no trades. But we will see, I guess if both Monahan and Lindholm are gone by 6, then what do they do? Pick Nurse?
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If Monahan and Lindholm are both gone by 6.... you do not draft Nurse, because it means one of MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin, Nichushkin and Barkov are still on the board.
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Ya, I really want the Flames to just draft at 6th, no trades. But we will see, I guess if both Monahan and Lindholm are gone by 6, then what do they do? Pick Nurse?
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Ya, I really want the Flames to just draft at 6th, no trades. But we will see, I guess if both Monahan and Lindholm are gone by 6, then what do they do? Pick Nurse?

If Monahan and Lindholm are gone then take Seth Jones, or Barkov/Drouin
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Ya, I really want the Flames to just draft at 6th, no trades. But we will see, I guess if both Monahan and Lindholm are gone by 6, then what do they do? Pick Nurse?
In order for that to happen, one of Jones, Drouin, Barkov, or MacKinnon is still on the board. In that case you take that player and walk away ecstatic.
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Ya, I really want the Flames to just draft at 6th, no trades. But we will see, I guess if both Monahan and Lindholm are gone by 6, then what do they do? Pick Nurse?
I don't think both will be taken, one of those is guaranteed to be there, if they are taken,one of the top 4 will be available.
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I remember him claiming karlsson was a huge steal when Ottawa drafted him as well.
And dont forget parise
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I hope everything with the #5 pick is on hold to see if Barkov drops to that spot.

If Barkov is there at 5
-Flames trade #6 + #28 to Canes for #5 and get Barkov...YES!!!

If Barkov is not there at 5
-Flames trade 6 and Gaudreau to Bruins for Seguin
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-Flames trade 6 and 28 to Sabres for 8 and 16
-Draft Monahan/Lindholm/Nurse/Horvat at 8

Any of those scenarios makes me a very happy fan today.
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I hope everything with the #5 pick is on hold to see if Barkov drops to that spot.

If Barkov is there at 5
-Flames trade #6 + #28 to Canes for #5 and get Barkov...YES!!!

If Barkov is not there at 5
-Flames trade 6 and Gaudreau to Bruins for Seguin
OR
-Flames trade 6 and 28 to Sabres for 8 and 16
-Draft Monahan/Lindholm/Nurse/Horvat at 8

Any of those scenarios makes me a very happy fan today.
So what you're saying is, you don't want the Flames to draft 6th.
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