It amazes me how many people continue to frig themselves over names of ex-players to take on an executive role with the club, simply because they liked them as players, despite no proven success managing NHL clubs.
Of all the names that have been dropped, Burke (first) and Campbell appear to be the most qualified for the job. I'd rather have either of those than bringing in Nieuwendyk or MacInnis simply because they played for us.
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It amazes me how many people continue to frig themselves over names of ex-players to take on an executive role with the club, simply because they liked them as players, despite no proven success managing NHL clubs.
Of all the names that have been dropped, Burke (first) and Campbell appear to be the most qualified for the job. I'd rather have either of those than bringing in Nieuwendyk or MacInnis simply because they played for us.
I don't think anybody would disagree with you, but when you look at what the new job is entailing, do you really see Burke or Campbell taking it?
It amazes me how many people continue to frig themselves over names of ex-players to take on an executive role with the club, simply because they liked them as players, despite no proven success managing NHL clubs.
Of all the names that have been dropped, Burke (first) and Campbell appear to be the most qualified for the job. I'd rather have either of those than bringing in Nieuwendyk or MacInnis simply because they played for us.
Both Nieuwendyk (not a fan) and MacInnis have experience in team management.
Does Campbell have any? Shanahan had none. I am guessing that any position for which Shanahan was qualified, Niewy and Al would be more qualified for (unless it was some kind of league liaison role).
Both Nieuwendyk (not a fan) and MacInnis have experience in team management.
Does Campbell have any? Shanahan had none. I am guessing that any position for which Shanahan was qualified, Niewy and Al would be more qualified for (unless it was some kind of league liaison role).
Yes, I agree on both Nieuwendyk, but his GM tenure with the Stars was not particularily succesful. MacInnis experience is questionable based on his role with the Blues under JD, kind of hard to pin point just how great that exprience was. I also think people are far too excited by JD, and therefore are given MacInnis tones of credibility due to his tenure with the Blues.
Campbell's experience is all at the NHL level as VP of hockey ops, but I'd suggest that's more relevant than the two former Flames. For me the only exciting name in the group is Burke tbh, but who knows what kind of appeal that would hold.
Campbell's experience is all at the NHL level as VP of hockey ops, but I'd suggest that's more relevant than the two former Flames. For me the only exciting name in the group is Burke tbh, but who knows what kind of appeal that would hold.
Campbell has been around as a head coach and a long tenure with the NHL. I have no doubt he is very qualified but I feel he represents the old school thinking. The part about Shanahan that I liked the most was that he's a fresh mind and all the great GM's had to start somewhere and by all accounts Shanahan is very intelligent. I can definately see why Edwards was interested.
It amazes me how many people continue to frig themselves over names of ex-players to take on an executive role with the club, simply because they liked them as players, despite no proven success managing NHL clubs.
Of all the names that have been dropped, Burke (first) and Campbell appear to be the most qualified for the job. I'd rather have either of those than bringing in Nieuwendyk or MacInnis simply because they played for us.
Hakan Loob has been GM or President of the most successful club in Sweden for the last 15 years.
Campbell has been around as a head coach and a long tenure with the NHL. I have no doubt he is very qualified but I feel he represents the old school thinking. The part about Shanahan that I liked the most was that he's a fresh mind and all the great GM's had to start somewhere and by all accounts Shanahan is very intelligent. I can definately see why Edwards was interested.
TBH, I very much respect Edwards intelligence, but based on the way he handled the Iginla stuff (apparently) and his strong interest in Shanahan, I must admit that I worry his judgement may get clouded when dealing with ex-players as I feel he might be a little bit of a fan boy (and who can blame him).
Hakan Loob has been GM or President of the most successful club in Sweden for the last 15 years.
Right, and that would make him very qualified IMO. Lacking in NHL experience, but that's a good resume he's built, nothing to do with his playing career.
TBH, I very much respect Edwards intelligence, but based on the way he handled the Iginla stuff (apparently) and his strong interest in Shanahan, I must admit that I worry his judgement may get clouded when dealing with ex-players as I feel he might be a little bit of a fan boy (and who can blame him).
TBH, I very much respect Edwards intelligence, but based on the way he handled the Iginla stuff (apparently) and his strong interest in Shanahan, I must admit that I worry his judgement may get clouded when dealing with ex-players as I feel he might be a little bit of a fan boy (and who can blame him).
Most owners are fanboys. They don't buy sports teams to make money or increase their wealth. It's a luxury purchase and they seldom run them like they do their other companies. I can understand why guys like Edwards and Katz love the involvement but surely they are smart enough to sense when things aren't working? The Al Davis/Jerrry Jones model simply doesn't work.
Most owners are fanboys. They don't buy sports teams to make money or increase their wealth. It's a luxury purchase and they seldom run them like they do their other companies. I can understand why guys like Edwards and Katz love the involvement but surely they are smart enough to sense when things aren't working? The Al Davis/Jerrry Jones model simply doesn't work.
I don't buy that.
They are also winners, and got where they are buy doing 'what needed to be done.' These guys have climbed over the corpses of people that were closer and dearer to them than boyhood sports idols.
I don't think that senile old owners with nothing better to do than mess with their sports teams are good comparables to Katz/Edwards.
They are also winners, and got where they are buy doing 'what needed to be done.' These guys have climbed over the corpses of people that were closer and dearer to them than boyhood sports idols.
And now they're in a business where you can't succeed by cliimbing over corpses. You're in a working partnership with 29 other owners. You can't buy them out, you can't afford to let them go broke, and you can't gain a competitive edge by the kinds of tactics that will end up in court. The pro sports business is not kind to those who flunked 'Plays Well With Others' in kindergarten.
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I don't think that senile old owners with nothing better to do than mess with their sports teams are good comparables to Katz/Edwards.
Frankly, I don't see much to choose between Katz and Harold Ballard at this point. In particular, Katz has been showing the same kind of bizarre loyalty to Lowe that Ballard showed to Punch Imlach — and some of the same tendency to throw everybody else under the nearest available bus.
I read an interview with KK and it did not go into specifics, but he did say that neither him or Feaster would lose any power, or give up any day to day duties that they do. He mentioned that he wanted another pair of ears in managment.
Frankly, I don't see much to choose between Katz and Harold Ballard at this point. In particular, Katz has been showing the same kind of bizarre loyalty to Lowe that Ballard showed to Punch Imlach — and some of the same tendency to throw everybody else under the nearest available bus.
I hope you are right. The mess up north is the gift that keeps on giving.
The climbing over corpses was in reference to their own teams. i.e at a point in time Katz will have no problem blind-siding Lowe or MacT.
Owners already now the pecking order (the size of their wealth is public knowledge).
