But something that's bothering me - I've read some comments (and can't recall if they came from the team directly or not) where it would appear we might be on the prowl for bad contracts / reclamation projects.
Is anyone else concerned over the possibility of the Flames picking up really stupid contract(s)? It's taken so long to get rid of some of the no moves, dollars and dead weight we used to bandaid this group with over the years and we still have lingering parts we should probably move and talk about constantly. It's tiring and it would be nice to focus on a good clean draft & team of young kids for a change. No?
The damn Kotalik trade is still haunting me. I know that was under Sutter but when it comes to Feaster I know he was pursuing Richards right down to the wire as well. I got this funny feeling that desire didn't just hang itself out to dry. That and you known damn well Toronto is going to knock on our door in an attempt to offload Phaneuf. They seem to be able to sell us (the Eskimo) a fan whenever they want.
So prediction time do folks see Feaster acquiring bad contracts? And if so who potentially? Can also add under what circumstance you think we get it if you want. Curious to hear what people think.
Yes I think the flames are in the market for bad deals with pick/prospect sweeteners. I am all for it in cases like Ryan Malone but I am still concerned that we will trade for Brad Richards and that is the type of contract we need to avoid
I think we can spend to the cap if we are a contender, but this team is owned by businessman who aren't in the business of flushing money down for marginal returns.
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I do, but I won't really mind if he does it with a cookie attached. If we overpay someone for the next two or three years, really it's not going to hurt us that much. A 7 year contract is another story.
But something that's bothering me - I've read some comments (and can't recall if they came from the team directly or not) where it would appear we might be on the prowl for bad contracts / reclamation projects.
Is anyone else concerned over the possibility of the Flames picking up really stupid contract(s)? It's taken so long to get rid of some of the no moves, dollars and dead weight we used to bandaid this group with over the years and we still have lingering parts we should probably move and talk about constantly. It's tiring and it would be nice to focus on a good clean draft & team of young kids for a change. No?
The damn Kotalik trade is still haunting me. I know that was under Sutter but when it comes to Feaster I know he was pursuing Richards right down to the wire as well. I got this funny feeling that desire didn't just hang itself out to dry. That and you known damn well Toronto is going to knock on our door in an attempt to offload Phaneuf. They seem to be able to sell us (the Eskimo) a fan whenever they want.
So prediction time do folks see Feaster acquiring bad contracts? And if so who potentially? Can also add under what circumstance you think we get it if you want. Curious to hear what people think.
One year left at 6.5M cap hit for Phanuef? Actually only 5.5M in salary
Why would the Leafs being pushing Phanuef any more than the Flames would want to dump Cammalleri? or Tanguay?
I just don't see teams offering up enough to get teams to take these bad contracts off their hands. Is it worth spending 7-8 million dollars to get an extra 2nd round pick? The Flames aren't that rich that they can spend that kind of money to draft a player who may not ever sign with the team.
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One year left at 6.5M cap hit for Phanuef? Actually only 5.5M in salary
Why would the Leafs being pushing Phanuef any more than the Flames would want to dump Cammalleri? or Tanguay?
Well from what I understand they want Letang now... but with Phaneuf back there it really don't make sense. If they get Letang they would look to move Phaneuf this year.
That and well, there's rumblings he's not the captain of choice anymore. Getting that fixed before this upcoming season is probably wise if that's the case.
I think we can spend to the cap if we are a contender, but this team is owned by businessman who aren't in the business of flushing money down for marginal returns.
Feaster stated at the sth event that he expects the team spend close to the cap this year and they are not looking to fish in the free agent pool. He has stated they are in the market for big contracts if they like the player or the asset that is attached to the player coming over
High picks/good prospects for eating a bad contract is a luxury not many teams can afford. The Flames are in a good position right now with Iginla, Bouwmeester and Kiprusoff off of the books. If they can trade away Tanguay and Cammalleri too, they'll be hard-pressed to even hit the cap floor.
Feaster stated at the sth event that he expects the team spend close to the cap this year and they are not looking to fish in the free agent pool. He has stated they are in the market for big contracts if they like the player or the asset that is attached to the player coming over
Yes, spend money that will bring in meaningful returns. Not spend millions of dollars for a draft pick so we can buy him out.
EDIT : I should clarify, I don't think we'll trade for someone and buy him out. I can see him picking a bad contract and keeping him, if its the right player. I think they're banking more on the UFA route.
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Well from what I understand they want Letang now... but with Phaneuf back there it really don't make sense. If they get Letang they would look to move Phaneuf this year.
That and well, there's rumblings he's not the captain of choice anymore. Getting that fixed before this upcoming season is probably wise if that's the case.
So I think the situations are different.
What do you think Toronto would want back for Phanuef?
It is a different time now but I would think that Phanuef at last year's trade deadline would be worth more than Bouwmeester was? And Bouwmeester now would not be worth what we got for him at the trade deadline.
I would much rather have poor skating Phanuef that plays with his heart on his sleeve than smooth skating level-paced Bouwmeester.
Let me preface this by saying this pure speculation, but is it possible that Feaster's budget got cut back due to all the work the Flames have to do because of the floods?
King said they were not going to wait for an insurance cheque to start replacing items. Also while he said the Flames were fully insured, it is possible the insurance company may find/build in loopholes to the coverage that perhaps won't see the Flames being fully reimbursed. The Flames are also reportedly having crews work on the Saddledome 24/7. Don't believe the insurance company will cover the cost of overtime or added workers.
Just putting it out there, that perhaps Feaster doesn't have the budget he had 2 weeks ago.
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Let me preface this by saying this pure speculation, but is it possible that Feaster's budget got cut back due to all the work the Flames have to do because of the floods?
King said they were not going to wait for an insurance cheque to start replacing items. Also while he said the Flames were fully insured, it is possible the insurance company may find/build in loopholes to the coverage that perhaps won't see the Flames being fully reimbursed. The Flames are also reportedly having crews work on the Saddledome 24/7. Don't believe the insurance company will cover the cost of overtime or added workers.
Just putting it out there, that perhaps Feaster doesn't have the budget he had 2 weeks ago.
You can add to that that there is a chance that some games will not b played in the Dome this year, which would obviously be detrimental to revenues.
I believe losing regular season games is unlikely, but losing any of the 4 pre-season games would be a bit of a blow to revenues. Those games are pure gravy.
Do you see Feaster taking on bad contract(s)?
