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Old 06-26-2013, 10:38 AM   #581
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I believe to replace the pipes they would need to take out the floor. I can't imagine it's in good shape anyway with a few days of standing water on it and how dirty that water was. Just take the floor out, replace the pipes, put a new floor down.
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So by that logic we can conclude there is no life in the Universe except on Earth; because we also currently lack the ability to prove it conclusively.

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How do you take out a cement floor without creating a crap load of work?

Wouldn't the pipes just be suspended below the event floor?
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:37 AM   #584
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How do you take out a cement floor without creating a crap load of work?

Wouldn't the pipes just be suspended below the event floor?
Well that's kind of what I was asking for. If they have to take the entire floor out (or a significant portion) is there really any hope that they can get this done in the next 2-3 months?
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:41 AM   #585
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Are unicorns real? We can speculate that they are, but how about we don't state they exist in the saddledome...
of course they are real, how can a fictional creature be Scotland's national animal
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How do you take out a cement floor without creating a crap load of work?

Wouldn't the pipes just be suspended below the event floor?
I've watched a cement pad be jackhammered out and repoured in a week's time for a large industrial building. This wouldn't be much different.

Jackhammer the floor to remove the old concrete, remove/clean up the pieces, put footings in place for the new pad area, pour the floor, couple days to cure.

The boards already have to be removed along with some of the seats so that's a huge advantage. The surrounding area of the cement pad can be cleared so that when the removal/repour is done, it has nothing in its way.

The pipes (which I haven't seen in awhile so I can't 100% recall) should be between a foundation floor and the arena floor. So the arena floor has to come out to replace the pipes.
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of course they are real, how can a fictional creature be Scotland's national animal
Because Scotland is a fictional nation?

Think about it. I went looking for Scotland on the map, and all I could find was some silly place called Uk. I mean, really! Uk! What kind of name for a country is Uk?!

Furthermore, I'm half Scottish, give or take, and my friends, who are kinder than I deserve, tell me I've only got one foot in reality. Obviously this is because Scotsmen, like unicorns, are mythical animals, and so my other foot does not actually exist.
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Ken King will update the media regarding the progress tomorrow at 9:30am.
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Ken King will update the media regarding the progress tomorrow at 9:30am.
I'm thinking an update this soon probably means it's not good news. Just guessing, though.
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I'm thinking an update this soon probably means it's not good news. Just guessing, though.
IF it was catastrophic, the Hitmen sked would've have had the home dates it did.

That's my hope/guess/rationalization.
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I'm thinking an update this soon probably means it's not good news. Just guessing, though.
That is my thought too. Just too early to make a lot of progress so why have an update.
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That is my thought too. Just too early to make a lot of progress so why have an update.
Last time they updated the media the whole event level was submerged and no clue as to the scope of the repairs... now the water has been pumped out they will probably have a better idea of whats going and a much better idea if they are going to make the start of the season.

If it was something catastrophic I am sure word would have leaked out by now considering the sheer number of workers they have in there.
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I'm thinking an update this soon probably means it's not good news. Just guessing, though.
I'm guessing he's announcing all Stampede events at the Dome are a go, but some seating changes need to be made.
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I'm thinking an update this soon probably means it's not good news. Just guessing, though.
Why? That doesn't make any sense, an update is just that. The damage is x, we are doing y. The timing doesn't indicate anything beyond the fact that the city is recovered to a point where holding press conferences to address what happened is appropriate.
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Well that's kind of what I was asking for. If they have to take the entire floor out (or a significant portion) is there really any hope that they can get this done in the next 2-3 months?
I don't think they would need to replace the glycol piping in the floor. Unless the concrete floor was structurally damaged from the weight of the water the pipng in the floor would be fine.

Even if the glycol pumps leaked and allowed sludge and floodwater into the pipes all you would have to do is pig them or flush them to clean them out. The ice plant itself is outside of the under the rink piping and pumps and cools a glycol water mixture underneath the ice.

The pipes are most definately embedded into the concrete to facilitate good heat transfer.
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Looks like the media avail has now been canceled due to the train derailment.
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FYI King will be on Hockey Central. Not sure what time slot.
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Odds are the ice won't be better next year
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