D.O.M.A. dead, Gay Marriage legal in the USA

[Caged Great]

In a ruling by the supreme court, they decided that the Defense of Marriage Act was unconstitutional based on discrimination. Therefore, the government can now only determine a marriage as being a marriage whether or not the couple is straight or gay, all legal distinctions are equal. If a state determines gays can marry, their marriage is legal in those states, but it does not transfer.

[PsYcNeT]

[LChoy]

SCOTUS still deciding on Prop 8, the California Marriage Ban. Does the DOMA ruling affect the Prop 8 decision?

[MRCboicgy]

Cool news!
Just read Scalia's dissent. Pretty harsh
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...2-307_g2bh.pdf

[Caged Great]

It just ruled that it cannot determine the ruling on prop 8. The people who brought the case to the supreme court were deemed not valid to be able to bring it to court.

In effect, it means that gay marriage is once again legal in the state of California as the lower court ruled that, and the legal decision was differed to the lower court.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Cool news!
Just read Scalia's dissent. Pretty harsh
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...2-307_g2bh.pdf

Scalia is a backwards wank and needs to retire.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Cool news!
Just read Scalia's dissent. Pretty harsh
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...2-307_g2bh.pdf

what pages?

[Regular_John]

Great news! Hopefully much like here the "debate" is put to rest at this point.

[undercoverbrother]

awesome

Spoiler!

[puckluck2]

I think I just had a seizure.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

what pages?

Starts at sheet 35

[Sliver]

OMG, put that in tags undercoverbrother.

[Puppet Guy]

fabulous!!!

[Senator Clay Davis]

And as you might imagine the right wingers are taking this one in stride.

http://www.businessinsider.com/todd-...-tweets-2013-6

[Cali Panthers Fan]

As someone who lives here, this is long overdue. Of all places, California should have been the leader in this arena. Unfortunately, it took the courts to recognize that the democratic process was running contrary to basic civil rights and had to make a tough decision to overrule the population.

That being said, this is a battle that is on it's last legs for the opposition. It's only a matter of time for all 50 states to follow suit. We are now at the point that those who are vocally against this sound as backward as those who were against the African-American civil rights movement in the 60s.

I am hopeful that this country recognizes that this is the time to make the change and becoming fully accepting of gay and lesbian couples.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Scalia is a backwards wank and needs to retire.

His interpretation on whether or not the supreme court has jurisdiction seems reasonable.

Since both parties agreed with the judgment of the District Court for the Southern District of New York, the suit should have ended there. The further proceedings havebeen a contrivance, having no object in mind except to ele- vate a District Court judgment that has no precedential effect in other courts, to one that has precedential effect throughout the Second Circuit, and then (in this Court)precedential effect throughout the United States.

Essentially since everyone agreed with the decision of the lower court why is there an appeal to a higher court. While the court made the right decision from a moral and ethical stand point did they make the right decision from a legal standpoint? Of course they are the supreme court so the majority opinion is always legally correct.

What I do like about the supreme court is even decents that I disagree with are always very well written and based in law. Very rarely is there ever an unreasonable argument being made.

[Dan02]

Booyah, well if I was American.

[FlamesAddiction]

The next thing you know, people are going to be allowed to marry their cats, cats will be marrying badgers, iPhones will be marrying Androids. It's a slippery slope!

Or at least that's what I heard.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

As someone who lives here, this is long overdue. Of all places, California should have been the leader in this arena. Unfortunately, it took the courts to recognize that the democratic process was running contrary to basic civil rights and had to make a tough decision to overrule the population.

That being said, this is a battle that is on it's last legs for the opposition. It's only a matter of time for all 50 states to follow suit. We are now at the point that those who are vocally against this sound as backward as those who were against the African-American civil rights movement in the 60s.

I am hopeful that this country recognizes that this is the time to make the change and becoming fully accepting of gay and lesbian couples.

I'd love to agree with you, but there are a number of States that are a long ways away from taking that step, just as there are many States that have only very recently accepted the equality of African-Americans. The fight is far from over, but this is a huge step.

[nik-]

Incoming right wingers claiming they're losing their country because they're no longer oppressing the rights of a minority.