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Old 06-24-2013, 01:46 PM   #3241
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:48 PM   #3242
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Preliminary estimates of damages range between $3-billion and $5-billion, BMO analyst Tom MacKinnon said in a note to clients Monday. Losses after insurance could reach $3.75-billion, he said.
Wow, I was living in Ottawa during the ice storm, which means I was around for two of the most expensive natural disasters in Canadian history. As a public service, I'll be sure to make an announcement the next time I move.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:49 PM   #3243
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Wow, if I were a little kid and I saw that, I'd be traumatized. It's actually pretty creepy looking, like something out of a bad horror movie.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:49 PM   #3244
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:54 PM   #3245
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I heard something about the City not being allowed by law to shut them down because water is their primary source of business. It would be similar in drought times.
Interesting that water is not permitted for use in grading and compaction currently, which will put some companies out of business until the restriction is lifted, correct? You can't do any fills in grading without water for compaction. Or are they expected to go to pump it from nearby puddles and ponds?
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:02 PM   #3246
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I know people don't like the calgary strong hashtag, or 90.3fm, but a good video none the less:

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Interesting that water is not permitted for use in grading and compaction currently, which will put some companies out of business until the restriction is lifted, correct? You can't do any fills in grading without water for compaction. Or are they expected to go to pump it from nearby puddles and ponds?
I can't answer your question specifically. Just passing along the information that I had heard. I wasn't intending to state as fact or gospel, just passing along info that I had heard.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #3248
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Interesting that water is not permitted for use in grading and compaction currently, which will put some companies out of business until the restriction is lifted, correct? You can't do any fills in grading without water for compaction. Or are they expected to go to pump it from nearby puddles and ponds?
I'm assuming hydrovac operators will have to grab a shovel.
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I saw a tweet this morning that said "car washes are open because they are allowed to be, but don't wash your car unless it's a safety issue" or something like that.

Do people really have to be told not to wash their car right now?
Well, the mayor was pleading with people not to go into the raging river. Obliviousness isn't even the biggest problem right now.

jar_e said something like most of his 36 hour shift was spent dealing with/pulling people out of the banks.

dumb dumb dumb.

That's in the portfolio of public shaming in my mind. If the law won't allow it, derision from your fellow-man should step up.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:18 PM   #3250
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Now I'm not sure, but I think that might be a photoshop...
There is always a chance of that...
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:21 PM   #3251
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I'm assuming hydrovac operators will have to grab a shovel.
They would be exempt when they are doing essential to cleanup/rebuild work, I would certainly think.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:23 PM   #3252
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Interesting that water is not permitted for use in grading and compaction currently, which will put some companies out of business until the restriction is lifted, correct? You can't do any fills in grading without water for compaction. Or are they expected to go to pump it from nearby puddles and ponds?
I believe when the outdoors water ban was announced nenshi said that you could only use city water outdoors if it is critical to your business or an emergency.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:25 PM   #3253
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They would be exempt when they are doing essential to cleanup/rebuild work, I would certainly think.
Well by the time rebuilds get underway, I would assume the water ban will have been lifted.

Reconstruction hasn't really begun yet, outside of some City scrambling. Expect Wednesday and Thursday to be the start of the Big Dig.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:28 PM   #3254
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Went for a drive today, down south of Strathmore, out to the river just below the Speargrass Golf Course. The Wyndham-Carseland campground looks like a total washout. The water breached out to the little store on the corner - there were a ton of people working and we asked if they wanted more help but they said they have tons of help. The water was even beyond them, way into the pasture lands bordering the campground.

Lots of houses on the other side of the road from them, that looked to be in the same boat - they have the road on that side completely blocked off, so we couldn't find out if any one in the homes needed clean up help. Might make another trip out tomorrow and see if we can help out there, to start. Easier to get back to town to run my kid to the hospital for her treatments.

We could see what looks to be the high water mark on the bridge columns but I don't think it came over top. On the other side of the bridge though, where the store is, you can see that it was over top of the roadway there. Lots of picnic tables smushed up against the fence - even a child's booster seat/car seat. Lots of debris on the river banks, some of which must have come from upstream. I can only imagine what's churning in the weir there right now. Lots of big trees just pelting along in the river.

We didn't go to the riverbanks - don't know why anyone would, it looks like quicksand that would suck you under in a flat minute, never mind that it's highly unstable, most likely. There's a high spot on the other side, off the highway, that's a look out point, which is where we stopped for a minute.

Strathmore is on the same water restriction levels as Calgary, since we're on their water. Driving around, looks like everyone is complying, which is good.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:33 PM   #3255
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My son lives in Canmore, heres a few aftermath pics:

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Old 06-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #3256
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does anybody know what are roads condition like near mission, where there is a safeway by 4th street?
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #3257
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:38 PM   #3258
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I wonder how far back from the "creek" those houses were prior to the flood.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #3259
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I wonder how far back from the "creek" those houses were prior to the flood.
Some guy they interviewed said he had 150' of frontage prior to the flooding. He said that on the bright side, now he has less yard work to do.
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does anybody know what are roads condition like near mission, where there is a safeway by 4th street?
http://google.org/crisismap/2013-alberta-floods

Zoom in here.... looks like elbow is closed, mission road is closed... 4th is closed back to Mercato and 5th street is closed back to 24th avenue. Not even sure you can get a vehicle near there anyhow.
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