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Old 05-24-2013, 05:13 PM   #41
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I don't think it was considered a very bad deal at the time...
I think its important to realize that a lot of these deals were terrible contracts, but it takes hindsight.

Bryzgalov
Richards
Parise
Suter

I think the majority of these 'mega-deals' will be considered absolutely insane in a few years.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:16 PM   #42
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I think even Webers and AOs contracts might be viewed as terrible in due time
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:53 PM   #43
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I can see Briere in Pittsburg next year. A great playoff performer and he can stick it to the state rivals Philly. Plus it's close in proximity to where he wants to live.

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Old 05-25-2013, 02:12 PM   #44
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I can see Briere in Pittsburg next year. A great playoff performer and he can stick it to the state rivals Philly. Plus it's close in proximity to where he wants to live.
I like the idea, but I just don't think they can fit another 2+mil salary without shedding an important piece.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #45
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Agree completely on the mega contracts. If you're going to sign a guy to $10 million/year... you don't sign them to anything beyond 2 years I don't think.

It's a question of risk management... and the team takes on all the risk in those instances that a superstar will be that good for that long, which virtually never happens. I just don't see the value in those contracts.

Deals like Parise and Suter, you're going to regret those deals, and you're better off developing from within, and if you're guys turn out to be superstars, let them walk if they won't sign reasonable deals.

Pittsburgh made it work, because they have Crosby. But that's a rarity... not many players make that kind of money but continually put in that dedication / commitment. Look at Boston... none of their contracts look terrible but they still have a great team. Chicago too, managed to get good deals on their star players. Detroit, same thing. It's part of the reason I think Edmonton is bad... they have guys like Horcoff chewing up big salaries... Calgary paying Stajan 3.5 when he only earned it one season?

If I was GM there'd be basically an internal max of 3 year deals and zero no trade clauses... when a guy is making a billion a year I think they can take the risk of being traded or having to earn their next deal.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:24 PM   #46
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This is why I despised all those stupid long term contracts that were being doled out. Absolutely killed the trade market and screwed so many teams over and the players when they could not live up to the value of those contracts. I wish the league would have kept their foot down on the shorter term contracts they wanted.
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I think its important to realize that a lot of these deals were terrible contracts, but it takes hindsight.

Bryzgalov
Richards
Parise
Suter

I think the majority of these 'mega-deals' will be considered absolutely insane in a few years.
Bryz: Horrible
Richards: Horrible (never mind 'bullet dodged', this was potentially Cuban Missile Crisis averted for the Flames)
Parise: Probably not great towards the end.
Suter: You get Norris calibre play out of him for the next six or seven years, it'll be worth it. Hope he retires soon after.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:18 AM   #48
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Looks to be official.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425925
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #49
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Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 26m
BREAKING NEWS: #Flyers GM Paul Holmgren issued a statement regarding Danny Briere. READ HERE… http://bit.ly/11pHJOu
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #50
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Sounds like Briere will stay out east:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/f...re-buyout.html
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Now, the only question left is where Briere will land. Ottawa, across the river from his hometown of Gatineau, Quebec, seems like a natural fit. However, Senators GM Bryan Murray isn’t usually keen on smaller players but may take a flier if “the price is right.”
Montreal and New Jersey are also possibly landing spots. Briere would like to remain close to his three hockey-playing boys - Cameron, Carson and Caelan - who will stay in South Jersey.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:27 AM   #51
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forcing yourself to buyout a guy like Briere by signing Streit ... oh Philly ...
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Not that there is any chance of him coming here anyway, but I don't think he will be that much of a hot commodity. 35 yrs old and he is a few years past a ppg player (in the regular season). I could see a short term deal with NJ as his best bet.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:04 PM   #53
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Philly must not expect to make the playoffs the next couple seasons, considering Briere is one of the best playoff performers in the league.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:09 PM   #54
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i know we're all hoping for some interesting cap buyout options to be available to the flames, but i think all will be happy taking the cash, and then picking and choosing contending teams, and not have a huge salary request, given they are being paid at least some money already.

I hope whatever teams lose in the briere sweepstakes have cammalleri as their targetted backup plan.

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Old 06-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #55
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I thought the buyout period couldn't start until 48h after the final game of the Stanley Cup?
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:46 PM   #56
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Philly must not expect to make the playoffs the next couple seasons, considering Briere is one of the best playoff performers in the league.
While true, he just wasnt worth his $6.5M cap hit. They'd have a better chance of making the playoffs if they could pay that out to players who can still deliver.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:40 PM   #57
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15 teams or more believed to have interest in Briere once he becomes a buyout UFA. Briere will want a 1-2 year deal. #TSN
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:57 PM   #58
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He's going to KHL for 100million over 5 years e10

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Briere is between Nashville and Montreal, no decision made yet.
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To follow up, rumor is 2 years/8 M with Montreal.
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