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Old 06-19-2013, 06:10 PM   #5881
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I think there is about a 0 percent chance that other teams doing any scouting based on what Feaster says or doesn't say.

Can't imagine anything said by any GM in the media that would affect how another team does business, approaches the drafts or deals with them, imo.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:10 PM   #5882
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I was thinking of someone more mature.

I have no clue how Burmistrov or Nichushkin is off the ice, but I don't want a repeat of the Kostitsyn/Radulov missing curfew before a playoff game because they were clubbing.
Kulemin? Seems like the right Kind of guy to take a young player under his wing.

There we go. Cammy for Kulemin.

Also, I wonder if Hudler has some Russian under his belt as well. I know he is czech but he did play in the KHL.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:15 PM   #5883
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Passes, shots, one timers and terrible euro trance techno. All you could want on Nichushkin from a youtube video!

But really, the only thing that matters is where the puck ends up. In front of the net almost all of the time. we have finishers in Sven and Glencross who can clean up after him.
id have absolutely no issue with drafting this guy. looks like a bigger stronger yakapov. whom might be a prick but everyone in eddie loves him, if flames got nichushkin i bet he becomes a fan favorite in a year. We need a #1 C, but also a #1 RW. wont be crying if he is our guy at #6.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:16 PM   #5884
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But you're right, most of them are the same goal over and over. He does fight through a lot of clutching and hooking though.
It's because he dominates the play for every highlight. He just skates by the defenseman or leans into them.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:18 PM   #5885
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Besides, if Feaster and co wanted to leak a name on who they were interested in and wanted everyone to know it, they would give the info to TSN or CBC and make it national news... not Andy Strickland.
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If Nichushkin tried those moves against a team like the Bruins, they'd knock him on his ass before he got close to the net.

I'd rather see highlight clips of him winning puck battles in the corners that led to goals.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:21 PM   #5887
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Besides, if Feaster and co wanted to leak a name on who they were interested in and wanted everyone to know it, they would give the info to TSN or CBC and make it national news... not Andy Strickland.
That's true. And after reading the 1st part where he tries to make the Knight acquisiton sound hefty, it's like he is trying to troll Flames fans.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:25 PM   #5888
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If Nichushkin tried those moves against a team like the Bruins, they'd knock him on his ass before he got close to the net.

I'd rather see highlight clips of him winning puck battles in the corners that led to goals.
that kinda thinking lead to drafting neimisz and nystrom and such. need more skilled guys.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:25 PM   #5889
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If Nichushkin tried those moves against a team like the Bruins, they'd knock him on his ass before he got close to the net.

I'd rather see highlight clips of him winning puck battles in the corners that led to goals.
So using your size to your advantage in the open ice won't translate to the NHL but if you use it on the walls you are going to be able to translate your size then? Never heard of that logic before.
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When I start the sentence off with Can't imagine I think that it is fairly clear it is my opinion. No real need to add it at the end.

But I would love to hear the rationale behind GM's changing their approach to anything based on reports in the media that they have no idea are true or not.
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Kulemin? Seems like the right Kind of guy to take a young player under his wing.

There we go. Cammy for Kulemin.

Also, I wonder if Hudler has some Russian under his belt as well. I know he is czech but he did play in the KHL.
Not that I think he would make for a very effective player to take Nichushkin under his wing, but Aliu does speak fluent Russian (or was that Ukranian? I think it was Russian).
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Because Nichuskin is undeniably, and by all scouting sources, a top 5 elite talent, and a top 3 forward in this draft, and the largest reason for why he isn't projected higher is because of the Russian risk and that is widely known. Nashville or Carolina would be all but guaranteed to be picking him if this risk were eliminated because everything else is there. So if Calgary exhibited the image that they were comfortable enough to make him their consensus pick at #6, I think it's very possible that it would cause those teams to think that we had the inside track on his situation, or know something they don't. Like it was said, some interviews with him went well and some didn't, likely due in large part to the communication barrier. But for a team in this range to exhibit the attitude that they were confident that he were not a flight risk for them, I wouldn't be surprised that a team like Carolina, who might be looking at an inferior talent such as Monahan, might take some extra consideration with Nichuskin. And they are probably already giving him consideration to begin with. Who's to say the team below them showing full confidence in the player wouldn't score him some extra points in that regard? And you think each teams' lists are set in stone weeks prior? No way.

Like Feater has said about his draft in 2011, 1st round picks can be constantly moving targets, and who is preferred over who can change at a dime. It's never just set in stone, even in the minutes leading up to the decision, as he showed by choosing Sven over the unnamed (Murphy?) available pick that was supposedly higher ranked on their list. Fact is, human opinions can be altered by the slightest things, especially when the decision comes down to one person alone. When you break it down, picks are made on hunches, and those can be influenced. As well, look at the mind games colorado is playing on everybody in the top 5 right now.. Anyways, that's about as far as I can go on that. It's still a matter of opinion. If you don't agree then cool.

Ps. You and Sven should get a room.
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Passes, shots, one timers and terrible euro trance techno. All you could want on Nichushkin from a youtube video!

But really, the only thing that matters is where the puck ends up. In front of the net almost all of the time. we have finishers in Sven and Glencross who can clean up after him.
If he was Canadian he would have went #1 IMO.
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If he was Canadian he would have went #1 IMO.
Easily.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:29 PM   #5895
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Not sure if that is a response meant for me but it doesn't really explain how/why a GM would use a media report to figure out what other GM's are doing or to effect anything that they would do.

Are you really suggesting that Paul Holmgren would read that and "Say well boys Strickland says Flames want Nichuskin so take him off the list and don't worry about scouting him'?

Or that Tallon has Seth Jones pencilled in to his line-up based on the "reports" coming out of Denver?

Teams make their plans and decide how to deal with teams based on scouting, knowledge of the guys in the hockey department and by talking to them and others in the business. Some report in the Denver Sun or hockeybuzz.com isn't going to change what they do or think and isn't going have them pay up to get the guy they want.

Feaster isn't going to trick anyone into overpaying or taking someone else by putting out some report about the Flames supposedly wanting Nichuskin.

Teams aren't going to be more or less interested in a player because of some newspaper report of the Flames supposedly liking a guy at 6.
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His release reminds me of Marcus Naslund.
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So using your size to your advantage in the open ice won't translate to the NHL but if you use it on the walls you are going to be able to translate your size then? Never heard of that logic before.
He used his size to his advantage once in open ice in that entire highlight package. There was one nice check, but the rest of the highlights had him skating around people with no contact. If he tried that in the NHL he'd get creamed.
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He used his size to his advantage once in open ice in that entire highlight package. There was one nice check, but the rest of the highlights had him skating around people with no contact. If he tried that in the NHL he'd get creamed.
Recommend watching the video I posted. He is just as strong on the boards. Puck possesion is a strength for this guy.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:10 PM   #5899
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If Nichushkin tried those moves against a team like the Bruins, they'd knock him on his ass before he got close to the net.

I'd rather see highlight clips of him winning puck battles in the corners that led to goals.
I don't think the Flames will be playing the Bruins in a meaningful game anytime soon
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Reading the past two pages of this discussion, it seems like most people are hoping for Monahan now. No more love for Lindholm?
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