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			Bob McKenzie seems to think they are buying out Bryz: 
 
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PHI will now negotiate a deal with Streit. Have to believe compliance buyouts are in the works for Bryzgalov and Briere to free up cap space
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-12-2013, 12:48 PM
			
			
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			So the rumour was that Briere would be bought out.. that would give them 6.5 in cap space and some wiggle room. 
 
If Streit = Prongers contract then they are actually 4.5 under the cap? 
 
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I can see the log jam at defense, a lot of good young players and some like de Haan with high upside trying to over come injury problems and make the big team.  Donovan had a stellar year in the AHL and Strait looked great for them down the stretch and into the Pens series..
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-12-2013, 12:48 PM
			
			
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				Yea that is straight up negotiating rights his 4.1 mill a year expires this season.. 
 
Interesting that he decides to pack it now with the Isles just as they are on their way up.. or maybe the Isles decided to pack him in? 
			
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The Isles have a very strick internal budget.  The only player they have averaging more than 5 mil/year is Tavares.  Streit probably asked for a raise, the Isle said no.  They moved his rights.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-12-2013, 12:49 PM
			
			
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			Bryzgalov: he serves as a warning to every franchise and their fans about what happens when an owner shows a personal interest in player personnel. 
 
That's an ownership signing right there and snider is going to have to pay for it himself.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-12-2013, 12:49 PM
			
			
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				so the flyers are over the cap, regardless of pronger's salary hit then? 
			
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It counts against the cap, but the Flyers can exceed the cap by pronger's cap hit due to the fact he is injured.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Bob McKenzie seems to think they are buying out Bryz: 
 
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Boy that's what I call ownership commitment.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-12-2013, 12:55 PM
			
			
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				Bryzgalov: he serves as a warning to every franchise and their fans about what happens when an owner shows a personal interest in player personnel. 
 
That's an ownership signing right there and snider is going to have to pay for it himself. 
			
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			06-12-2013, 12:56 PM
			
			
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				The Isles have a very strick internal budget.  The only player they have averaging more than 5 mil/year is Tavares.  Streit probably asked for a raise, the Isle said no.  They moved his rights. 
			
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I wonder if Wang will open the wallet when they move to Brooklyn? 
 
As for Streit, the Isles did offer him a raise, but it has been noted that he wants at least $5 million.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-12-2013, 12:57 PM
			
			
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			I checked out Bryz's payout via the CapGeek payout caculator. Mother of God: 
 
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				Ilya Bryzgalov is 32 years old on the buyout date of June 15, 2013, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $23,000,000 spread over 14 years. His contract was originally valued at $51,000,000 beginning in 2011 and ending in 2020, with $34,500,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout.
			
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2013-14: -$690,476
 2014-15: $1,309,524
 2015-16: $1,309,524
 2016-17: $1,809,524
 2017-18: $1,809,524
 2018-19: $5,059,524
 2019-20: $6,059,524
 2020-21: $1,642,857
 2021-22: $1,642,857
 2022-23: $1,642,857
 2023-24: $1,642,857
 2024-25: $1,642,857
 2025-26: $1,642,857
 2026-27: $1,642,857
  
He's a UFA as of 2020, so I don't fully understand why he is paid out until 2027.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Well yeah we know it was his mistake but it's not like every owner in the league is willing to pay players that much not to play for them after only one season into the contract as even the Rangers may keep going with Richards.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			The thought of that buyout is just horrendous.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Wants a four year deal? maybe two years too high is he is asking for 5 million. 
 
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Streit's agent, Pat Brisson will begin negotiations with Paul Holmgren today. A 4 year deal is the target. 
 
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			06-12-2013, 01:06 PM
			
			
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				I checked out Bryz's payout via the CapGeek payout caculator. Mother of God: 
  
 
  
2013-14: -$690,476 
2014-15: $1,309,524 
2015-16: $1,309,524 
2016-17: $1,809,524 
2017-18: $1,809,524 
2018-19: $5,059,524 
2019-20: $6,059,524 
2020-21: $1,642,857 
2021-22: $1,642,857 
2022-23: $1,642,857 
2023-24: $1,642,857 
2024-25: $1,642,857 
2025-26: $1,642,857 
2026-27: $1,642,857 
  
He's a UFA as of 2020, so I don't fully understand why he is paid out until 2027. 
			
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I beleieve your looking at cap hit.  When you buy someone out, you pay half of the cap hit for twice the years.  This isn't relevant this year due to the amnesty.  Bryz would have no cap hit if bought out this season or next.
 
If you buy someone out, the player just received 2/3 of the salary remaining.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well yeah we know it was his mistake but it's not like every owner in the league is willing to pay players that much not to play for them after only one season into the contract as even the Rangers may keep going with Richards. 
			
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Bryzgalov is the worst starter in the NHL, and will hamstring that organization for another 6 years. Awful.
 
They absolutely need to buy him out, more than briere in my opinion. He could be the number 1 buyout candidate in the NHL besides dipietro, off the top of my head.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I checked out Bryz's payout via the CapGeek payout caculator. Mother of God: 
  
  
  
2013-14: -$690,476 
2014-15: $1,309,524 
2015-16: $1,309,524 
2016-17: $1,809,524 
2017-18: $1,809,524 
2018-19: $5,059,524 
2019-20: $6,059,524 
2020-21: $1,642,857 
2021-22: $1,642,857 
2022-23: $1,642,857 
2023-24: $1,642,857 
2024-25: $1,642,857 
2025-26: $1,642,857 
2026-27: $1,642,857 
  
He's a UFA as of 2020, so I don't fully understand why he is paid out until 2027. 
			
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Spread out over twice the length of time left on the SPC IIRC.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-12-2013, 01:13 PM
			
			
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			http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-do-buyouts-work
HOW DO BUYOUTS WORK?
 
Teams are entitled to buy out player contracts for a portion of the remaining value of the contract — paid over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. Following are the buyout amounts:
 
Younger than age 26 at the time of buyout, 1/3 the remaining value 
Age 26 or older at the time of the buyout, 2/3 the remaining value
 
When a player is bought out, the team still takes a cap hit for the player over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. The amount of the cap hit (by year) is determined as follows:
 
Take the actual salary due for each remaining year 
Take the Averaged Player Salary (cap hit) for the current contract 
Calculate the buyout amount (as described above) 
Spread the buy-out amount evenly over twice the remaining years of the contract 
Take the number in No. 1 and subtract the number in No. 4. This is the "buyout savings." 
Take the cap hit from No. 2 and subtract the buyout savings from No. 5. 
This calculation is done for each year, meaning the buyout cap hit is not necessarily the same for all years. It can even be negative, meaning a team can receive a credit.
 
NOTE: During the ordinary course buyout periods in June 2013 and June 2014, teams will be permitted two compliance buyouts. Compliance buyouts follow the same formula as ordinary-course buyouts but do not count against the cap. For one season following a compliance buyout, the player is prohibited from rejoining the team that bought him out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I don't think there's any chance that the Flyers move Couturier.
 
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			06-12-2013, 02:02 PM
			
			
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			Why would they need to buy out Briere? A team like the Islanders or Coyotes would love to have a 6 mil cap hit with only 3 mil in salary to reach the floor. Saves them 3 million dollars that they desperately need 
 
Unless Briere has deteriorated to the point where he isn't worth 2.5 million to a team then I don't see why this isn't an easy fix for the Flyers 
 
 
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			06-12-2013, 02:04 PM
			
			
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			Why the "prospect"? 
 
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			06-12-2013, 02:05 PM
			
			
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			Long term injury doesnt count in the offseason does it? Prongers cap still counts until the season starts. 
  
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