Call me crazy, but many governments are suspicious of essentially the same issues.
There has been a lot of controversy spewing across the internet communities involving the Xbox One's consumer policies. There are three very big issues everyone is talking about: Used game/license fees, the 24 hour mandatory check-in and Kinect always being on. The German Federal Data Protection Commissioner was not at all pleased with that last piece of info.
Prominent German news and information site, Spiegel, managed to get in a word or two with their own Ferderal Data Protection Commissioner, Peter Schaar. The man in charge of protecting consumer privacy from digital, physical or unapproved data intrusion had this to say about Kinect 2.0 being always-on, always-listening and potentially always-watching...
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Under the heading, game device 'Microsoft pushes a monitoring device in the market," ... "The Xbox continuously records all sorts of personal information about me. Reaction rates, my learning or emotional states. [They] are then processed on an external server, and possibly even passed on to third parties. Whether they will ever deleted, the person can not influence."
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Germany's FDP Commissioner simply stated that...
"The fact that Microsoft now spying on my living room is merely a twisted nightmare."
This is what I'm trying too figure out. The age of the average gamer is around 25-30 now is it not? Why would anyone who has their life on track, and has a steady income care about the MS changes?
No used games: Big deal haven't bought one in a decade
Camera: Oh no, now when I don't have my smart phone on, or my laptop open I won't have my privacy from those scary online superhackers!
24 hour check-in: Well, what am I going to do when I don't have my xbox in range of my WI-FI(which hasn't happened in the past four years).
I get why anyone still in school, or relying on a parent to buy his games would be upset, but why would anyone else care? Isn't it possible that MS providing a developer friendly system might be to their advantage?
This is what I'm trying too figure out. The age of the average gamer is around 25-30 now is it not? Why would anyone who has there life on track, and has a steady income care about the MS changes?
No used games: Big deal haven't bought one in a decade
Camera: Oh no, now when I don't have my smart phone on, or my laptop open I won't have my privacy from those scary online superhackers!
24 hour check-in: Well, what am I going to do when I don't have my xbox in range of my WI-FI(which hasn't happened in the past four years).
I get why anyone still in school, or relying on a parent to buy his games would be upset, but why would anyone else care? Isn't it possible that MS providing a developer friendly system might be to their advantage?
I buy 2 games on a annual basis (new)....that said, I quite enjoy hitting the EB or whatever it is these days to pick up an old copy of fight night or nba or something along those lines for $10. Its a game Ill play for a couple weeks and have no problem never seeing it again.
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I buy 2 games on a annual basis (new)....that said, I quite enjoy hitting the EB or whatever it is these days to pick up an old copy of fight night or nba or something along those lines for $10. Its a game Ill play for a couple weeks and have no problem never seeing it again.
Sure, but both systems are now offering old games for free as part of their premium subscriptions. Credit to Sony for that though.
Serious question... how many of you do NOT have an internet connection that is always on connected at least ONCE every twenty-four hours?
I don't think I've had an internet connection that does not meet that requirement since 1999.
Listening != recording
But that's not the point. I may very well have internet connection, but I don't like the fact that MS demands I check in with them every 24 hours to verify my game that doesn't use the internet for anything else. What happens if the network goes down for more than 24 hours? It renders your whole gaming library useless.
But that's not the point. I may very well have internet connection, but I don't like the fact that MS demands I check in with them every 24 hours to verify my game that doesn't use the internet for anything else. What happens if the network goes down for more than 24 hours? It renders your whole gaming library useless.
But you get why they're doing it right? There is a guy right here in Calgary you can go to too "unlock" a current system. Can't quote his price, but he said I can get pirated copies of any game, for both systems for a lot cheaper than buying them new. Same guy "upgraded" my original Xbox as an emulator for the NES/SNES/Genesis/Mastersystem. They were going to start protecting themselves eventually.
But you get why they're doing it right? There is a guy right here in Calgary you can go to too "unlock" a current system. Can't quote his price, but he said I can get pirated copies of any game, for both systems for a lot cheaper than buying them new. Same guy "upgraded" my original Xbox as an emulator for the NES/SNES/Genesis/Mastersystem. They were going to start protecting themselves eventually.
I get it, but as a paying customer, I don't like it. Hence why I probably won't be getting the console. I don't have anything against MS, I bought both their consoles. I'll probably just be skipping the next one, that's all. As a guy who only really plays single player games, I don't think the Xbox One will appeal to me.
Serious question... how many of you do NOT have an internet connection that is always on connected at least ONCE every twenty-four hours?
I don't think I've had an internet connection that does not meet that requirement since 1999.
Listening != recording
I mentioned this in the PS4 thread. There are many instances where people would be without internet connection for an extended period of time. Last 2 times I moved I had to wait at least a week for the cable/internet to be hooked up. Not being able to play my single player console games would have sucked. Last year when the Shaw building caught fire thousands in the city were affected and without internet for days, and construction hitting a cable or fiber line by accident does happen and leaves entire areas without internet. And what about the millions of rural residents in the US and Canada? Are they just #### out of luck because broadband internet isn't available in their area or is very intermittent at best?
It's an asinine policy, and you know that. I get that you're a Microsoft employee, but defending such a ridiculous practice is kinda making you look like a shill
If you travel with your video game console, and you are over the age of, I dunno..... 14, you really need to take inventory of your life.
What if you are vacationing in a cabin somewhere, or just want a DVD/blu-ray player on to go? Surely there are countless reasons as to why someone might not have an internet connection every 24 hours, without that meaning they don't have a life.
I set up both my parents with PS3's so they could watch movies and play occasional games when family is over. Neither of them are tech-savvy enough to make sure it's constantly connected to the internet every day. So what happens to these customers? What happens to those oil riggers, or people that don't want to be forced into paying for the internet in order to use a console?
Some people may not see this is an issue because they are in that 25-35 age group (as am I), and won't see this is any sort of obstacle. Well that won't be the case for millions of other current users for varying reasons. Well I guess these people are going to have to follow Microsoft's advice and just keep their 360's in the future. Or better yet follow all the people leaving Microsoft for the PS4 which essentially has none of the issues that people are finding with the Xbox One. Then in a couple years when Microsoft realizes how poorly this new console has faired maybe they will remake it entirely, or be forced to launch an entirely new console to save the dying sector.
This is what I'm trying too figure out. The age of the average gamer is around 25-30 now is it not? Why would anyone who has their life on track, and has a steady income care about the MS changes?
No used games: Big deal haven't bought one in a decade
Camera: Oh no, now when I don't have my smart phone on, or my laptop open I won't have my privacy from those scary online superhackers!
24 hour check-in: Well, what am I going to do when I don't have my xbox in range of my WI-FI(which hasn't happened in the past four years).
I get why anyone still in school, or relying on a parent to buy his games would be upset, but why would anyone else care? Isn't it possible that MS providing a developer friendly system might be to their advantage?
Posted this in the PS4 thread, but the area of Tennessee my dad lives in doesn't have broadband connection due to the lack of infrastructure and potential customers to justify the building of it. I also have a buddy who I constantly trade games with, and neither of us really go for the online stuff. Tell me why it makes sense for us to spend $100 more on an Xbox One than a PS4?
I mentioned this in the PS4 thread. There are many instances where people would be without internet connection for an extended period of time. Last 2 times I moved I had to wait at least a week for the cable/internet to be hooked up. Not being able to play my single player console games would have sucked. Last year when the Shaw building caught fire thousands in the city were affected and without internet for days, and construction hitting a cable or fiber line by accident does happen and leaves entire areas without internet. And what about the millions of rural residents in the US and Canada? Are they just #### out of luck because broadband internet isn't available in their area or is very intermittent at best?
It's an asinine policy, and you know that. I get that you're a Microsoft employee, but defending such a ridiculous practice is kinda making you look like a shill
I'm not a MS employee, and find your argument asinine. I moved three years ago, and Telus had my internet hooked up within 24 hours. Maybe you should just do a better job of shopping around.
