06-08-2013, 11:46 AM
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#101
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by 1stLand
If Iginla wants to remain in the NHL, he needs to take his off-season training more seriously.
He should train with Gary Roberts and spend less time golfing and hanging out in Kelowna.
If he so desperately wants to win a cup, then he needs to elevate his game next year and be the difference maker, instead of a peripheral player.
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Off season training and fitness is not and has never been an issue for Iggy who usually shows up in camp and places at or near the top of the fitness rankings.
The issue is Iginla completely changing his game and his body type. something that he won't be able to change, its near impossible for him to go back to that powerforward type of player.
His issue is that the guy is freakin 36, unlike the players in the EA sports games, in real life you do slow down and get weaker no matter what you do in the offseason.
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06-08-2013, 11:50 AM
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#102
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada aka Flames Country
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The minor league team in Erinwoods.
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06-08-2013, 11:52 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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The real question is who gets bigger money next year? Iginla or Bickell?
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06-08-2013, 11:55 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey
The real question is who gets bigger money next year? Iginla or Bickell?
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Iginla will, no question. Someone will pay more for him based on reputation alone, and look past his performance in the playoffs. The cap being lowered could effect his contract, but I still see him getting 5+ per year.
Bicksell will probably end up between 3-4, maybe even 2.5 if he wants to stay in Chicago.
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06-08-2013, 12:03 PM
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#105
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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The Oilers and please let it be for $6mil+ /year.
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06-08-2013, 12:05 PM
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#106
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Originally Posted by moon
Also what a team get us a guy who was top ten in play-off scoring and helped his team win two play-off series, pretty sure plenty if teams could use that.
Malkin, Crosby and Lrtamg were all garbage in the Bruins series but doubt teams wouldn't line up around the block, Chicago La Boston included, for a chance to get them.
Teams aren't dumb enough to make assessments about a guy based on one series where the whole team including coaching staff were awful.
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First off, Iginla is not top ten in playoff scoring. He's currently tied with 6 other players for 10th in points total, but loses out on number of games played and will be definitely out of it when playoffs are over.
Other players, such as Neal, may have had horrible series, possibly worse than Iginla, but their's situations are different. Iginla has been playing like this for a couple of years and the question mark was whether he can or can not return to his beast mode with elite linemates (particularly that bloody #1 center) and when he has a real chance to win the Cup. There was also a big question on whether Iginla will or will net change his game when he's no longer The Man on the team.
Guys like Neal and Letang play in playoffs every year and everyone knows what to expect from them. For Iginla it was his first playoffs in 4 years and first playoffs on an elite team in his life.
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06-08-2013, 12:10 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
Iginla will, no question. Someone will pay more for him based on reputation alone, and look past his performance in the playoffs. The cap being lowered could effect his contract, but I still see him getting 5+ per year.
Bicksell will probably end up between 3-4, maybe even 2.5 if he wants to stay in Chicago.
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I was kind of joking when I asked this. I know Iginla will still get a pretty nice contract. It's just that someone will likely overpay for Bickell.
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06-08-2013, 12:23 PM
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#108
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
First off, Iginla is not top ten in playoff scoring. He's currently tied with 6 other players for 10th in points total, but loses out on number of games played and will be definitely out of it when playoffs are over.
Other players, such as Neal, may have had horrible series, possibly worse than Iginla, but their's situations are different. Iginla has been playing like this for a couple of years and the question mark was whether he can or can not return to his beast mode with elite linemates (particularly that bloody #1 center) and when he has a real chance to win the Cup. There was also a big question on whether Iginla will or will net change his game when he's no longer The Man on the team.
Guys like Neal and Letang play in playoffs every year and everyone knows what to expect from them. For Iginla it was his first playoffs in 4 years and first playoffs on an elite team in his life.
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Tied for 10th/10th not really a huge deal. Even being top 15 is pretty darn good.
I don't think there should have been any question whether he could return to beast at this age the answer was always going to be no. What he did show is he can still be a very good secondary piece on a contending team whether that is on the first or second line.
As for Neal going the play-offs every year. He has been 3 times in 6 years so not really every year and he has had one good year and two bad years so I guess you are right people do know what they will get from him.
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06-08-2013, 01:12 PM
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#109
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Iggy's probably realizing he had it pretty good in Calgary.
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06-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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#110
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by keenan87
I do see Colorado being a very good fit in Colorado.
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Agreed......nothing else would work.
I cant find his (her?) stats??
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06-08-2013, 01:45 PM
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#111
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: whereever my feet take me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffman
LA? I think hes played his best hockey under Daryl Sutter, maybe going to the Kings might get him his second wind. Kings for $3mil
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That'd be my hunch, too. The Pens probably will run into cap issues. The Bruins and Blackhawks (if they advance) will both have Stanley Cup hangover from playing deeper into June than normal with less recovery time before camp. King will be more rested, unless they go on a sudden tear.
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06-08-2013, 02:05 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
Iginla will, no question. Someone will pay more for him based on reputation alone, and look past his performance in the playoffs. The cap being lowered could effect his contract, but I still see him getting 5+ per year.
Bicksell will probably end up between 3-4, maybe even 2.5 if he wants to stay in Chicago.
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so how about Dupuis..... had a better playoffs than Iginla and a much better regular season.
Dupuis is the same size as Iginla and a year younger and significantly faster.
Over the last 2 regular seasons Iginla has 46 goals 100 pts in 126 games and Dupuis 45 goals 97 points in 130 games.
Is there any team that is going to make Dupuis one of their top 3-4 paid palyers? If not Dupuis why Iginla?
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06-08-2013, 02:06 PM
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#113
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by lucifer
the minor league team in erinwoods. 
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hahahahahahahah, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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06-08-2013, 02:16 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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As much as I want to see him get a cup, its gonna be tough for Iginla to demand both money and a rosterar old spot on a contending team. Another year older, on what seemed like a real decline year for Iginla... he used to play like a bull, but he looks below average physically right now; he used to play best when his feet were moving and he was using his speed, but he seems to have lost that advantage; even his shot doesn't look as deadly any more. Meanwhile, he does have warts in his game. Really, all those years of carrying the Flames on his back took a toll on his body, and while he could get away with deficiencies in his game before, they are now being exploited. I'm not sure he fits in for teams around the league now, especially ones who want to resign younger guy who already fill that role and better.
My guess is he stays in Pittsburg and Pittsburg gives him a 2nd shot at a basement bargain salary. 2nd guess in SJ...o/w I'm not sure a contender has room for Iginla on their roster and salary cap.
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06-08-2013, 02:21 PM
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#115
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Flames Country
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
so how about Dupuis..... had a better playoffs than Iginla and a much better regular season.
Dupuis is the same size as Iginla and a year younger and significantly faster.
Over the last 2 regular seasons Iginla has 46 goals 100 pts in 126 games and Dupuis 45 goals 97 points in 130 games.
Is there any team that is going to make Dupuis one of their top 3-4 paid palyers? If not Dupuis why Iginla?
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It's free agency, so 100% sure dupuis gets top 3/4 money somewhere.
Dupuis produced alongside Crosby. Iginla did slightly better with substantially less. Not arguing for iginla to get paid, just pointing out the comparison is flawed.
Both will get around $5M AAV if I'm guessing.
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06-08-2013, 02:31 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Iggy's probably realizing he had it pretty good in Calgary.
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That's the risk you take. Comfort and high expectations rarely go together.
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06-08-2013, 02:37 PM
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#117
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Iggy's probably realizing he had it pretty good in Calgary.
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Because 3 rounds of playoff hockey is inferior to being out of the playoff hunt half way through the season?
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06-08-2013, 02:42 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I think Iginla will take a sweetheart deal to stay in PIT... Well below his market value... Just a one year deal, though.
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06-08-2013, 03:02 PM
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#119
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Don't know if he will sign with them, but the Caps would be a great fit for him. They are missing that 2nd line 25-30 goal guy that can play a physical style and has won in the playoffs.
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06-08-2013, 03:03 PM
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#120
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobasew7
Don't know if he will sign with them, but the Caps would be a great fit for him. They are missing that 2nd line 25-30 goal guy that can play a physical style and has won in the playoffs.
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Him and Ribeiro play the same kind of hockey.
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