CBC French to drop the word Canada from their name..

[transplant99]

In case you haven’t heard, Radio-Canada, the French arm of the CBC, has announced it will rebrand itself “Ici.” If you aren’t fluent in French, let me translate that for you — they are calling themselves “Here.”

For 75 years, French Canadians have known Radio-Canada. My negative views towards the state broadcaster and their $1.1 billion per year subsidy are well known, but I would never deny they had a strong, well-known brand.

Dropping Canada from the name is a slap in the face to every taxpayer who funds the place. I truly do wonder whether this was done as a sop to Quebec separatists, many of whom have long worked at Radio-Canada but can’t stomach the name.

Lovely.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/06...t-to-canadians

[OffsideSpecialist]

Well, the union doesn't like it:

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/radio-can...-ici-1.1314399

And PR guy says:

Radio-Canada director of communications Guylaine Bergeron said that the name Radio-Canada will still be used, but qualified it by stating that Ici will be used as a “common denominator for the TV, web and radio components of the network.

So if they are replacing the Radio-Canada name on the TV, web and radio, yet say it will still be used, where exactly will it be used?

[Francis's Hairpiece]

Just cut off the subsidies. I have no problem if my taxes go to them, but by god they better recognize.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by OffsideSpecialist

So if they are replacing the Radio-Canada name on the TV, web and radio, yet say it will still be used, where exactly will it be used?

On the cheques they receive and their bank statements.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Francis's Hairpiece

Just cut off the subsidies. I have no problem if my taxes go to them, but by god they better recognize.

Why wouldn't you have a problem? What's the benefit? Really? They won't even disclose how they spend our money as Canadians are essentially subsidizing fat cats at the CBC who are making out like bandits all the while sticking their nose up in the air at the hand that feeds them.

[GGG]

If this improves viewership and ratings its a good move.

In essence the English cbc dropped Canada from their name long ago because they are just a 3 letter acronym.

[Francis's Hairpiece]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why wouldn't you have a problem? What's the benefit? Really? They won't even disclose how they spend our money as Canadians are essentially subsidizing fat cats at the CBC who are making out like bandits all the while sticking their nose up in the air at the hand that feeds them.

I was aiming more at the fact that the money going to the French arm didn't bother me. What they do with it is something else entirely.

[4X4]

I don't care at all what Quebec does to try to enhance their mini nationalism. It just simply doesn't bother me. They have a complex, and it's a bit understandable. They're trying not to be assimilated. Let them. It's Canada. They're free to do what they want. I hope they want to stay in Canada, and that's about the extent of my worries about Quebec and frenchies. Why does the rest of Canada get so indignant when Quebec does their thing? I used to get pissed off, too. Then one day I realized that there's nothing to get upset about.

I mean, it may seem like they're doing things like this to be anti canadian, but I think they do this because they're just really proud to be French Canadian. And then when the rest of Canada get's pissed right off, they get a bit retro-actively angry, and the wall goes up a little bit more.

Maybe the rest of Canada needs to just relax a bit and stop getting offended by their alternative source of pride.

Or maybe they're really just doing it to piss off the rest of Canada. They just wake up in the morning and think about ways to annoy us.

[Daradon]

Yeah, in my perfect world they don't do this obviously, but I'm not sure it's really anything that matters or anything worth getting upset over.

[The Goon]

I actually like the name.

[thymebalm]

This article is a joke. The guy sucks at making arguments.

There are a dozen Crown Corporations that don't use the word Canada, Canadian, Federal or National in their name and there are only about 50 crown corporations. Who cares what they call themselves?

He makes a poor choice by going the "us vs them" route and trying to rile people up with this antiquated 20th century nationalistic fervor. The separatists (if this is in fact motivated in that direction, which he only implies) are just as much a part of the Canadian cultural mosaic as you or I, get over it.

The argument that "what a waste of 400,000 dollars! The average Canadian would take 10 years to make that much money!". While that is true, that's not the point that matters. $400,000 dollars is 0.000002 percent of the annual budget. Which means if you worked for 2000 hours last year, about 15 seconds of that went into that name change. I've had farts longer than that.

[ae118]

The article is from the Sun, so it's not like anyone should expect an unbiased, accurate story. They also don't understand the meaning of "state broadcaster".

[Azure]

Isn't Via Rail a crown corporation too? Maybe we should change the name to Canada Rail.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I don't care at all what Quebec does to try to enhance their mini nationalism. It just simply doesn't bother me. They have a complex, and it's a bit understandable. They're trying not to be assimilated. Let them. It's Canada. They're free to do what they want.

They are free to do what they want and we only wish that was the case if they paid for it without our money. I pay taxes and much of it goes to Quebec and to the CBC. Their appearance of not being grateful for what they receive from elsewhere is insulting to many of us. That in essence is what bothers most of us.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

The argument that "what a waste of 400,000 dollars! The average Canadian would take 10 years to make that much money!". While that is true, that's not the point that matters. $400,000 dollars is 0.000002 percent of the annual budget. Which means if you worked for 2000 hours last year, about 15 seconds of that went into that name change. I've had farts longer than that.

That is exactly the point that matters. It doesn't matter how little the amount is, we still worked for it. I think I work until mid June for free every year since all of that is taxed.

You might not care but many of us do.

Your comments are rather insulting to be honest.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

That is exactly the point that matters. It doesn't matter how little the amount is, we still worked for it. I think I work until mid June for free every year since all of that is taxed.

You might not care but many of us do.

Your comments are rather insulting to be honest.

You work for "free" until June? So you get absolutely NO advantage from police protection, you went to private school and have never seen a doctor?

When I saw this article I was like, wow, this should show up on CP within seconds. Aside from the Oilers and Canucks, we have CP's two main hatreds tied up in one story: the CBC and Quebec.

Right now, from what I read, the new name is "Ici Radio Canada". The "Radio Canada" is still part of the name, but that wouldn't make the story so sensational and get the anti-Quebec people as riled up.

As for the CBC and tax money.... MOST developed countries have a national broadcaster that is at least partially paid for from tax money. The purpose of the national broadcaster isn't to make money, but rather to an end that could not be met by a for-profit broadcaster. When you limit the profit motive, you can get away with "Marketplace". When you limit the profit motive, you can afford to take risks such as with "Little Mosque on the Prairie". When you limit the profit motive you can afford to promote young Canadian talent the way CBC Radio does while commercial radio sticks with the tried and true. And its not just new musicians that CBC and CBC Radio promote - it's comedians, authors, artists of all forms... And I think that is worth the drop-in-a-bucket that we pay for them. Actually, as we slash and burn the CBC, the more American and British shows they are forced to air as they become more profit-driven, taking away from their mandate. Which then makes people question why we have them it at all.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Lovely.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/06...t-to-canadians

Anything to try and turn the spotlight away from the disaster that is the CPC of late.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

You work for "free" until June? So you get absolutely NO advantage from police protection, you went to private school and have never seen a doctor?

When I saw this article I was like, wow, this should show up on CP within seconds. Aside from the Oilers and Canucks, we have CP's two main hatreds tied up in one story: the CBC and Quebec.

Right now, from what I read, the new name is "Ici Radio Canada". The "Radio Canada" is still part of the name, but that wouldn't make the story so sensational and get the anti-Quebec people as riled up.

As for the CBC and tax money.... MOST developed countries have a national broadcaster that is at least partially paid for from tax money. The purpose of the national broadcaster isn't to make money, but rather to an end that could not be met by a for-profit broadcaster. When you limit the profit motive, you can get away with "Marketplace". When you limit the profit motive, you can afford to take risks such as with "Little Mosque on the Prairie". When you limit the profit motive you can afford to promote young Canadian talent the way CBC Radio does while commercial radio sticks with the tried and true. And its not just new musicians that CBC and CBC Radio promote - it's comedians, authors, artists of all forms... And I think that is worth the drop-in-a-bucket that we pay for them. Actually, as we slash and burn the CBC, the more American and British shows they are forced to air as they become more profit-driven, taking away from their mandate. Which then makes people question why we have them it at all.

I agree with your post but Little Mosque on the Praire was a terrible show. It was one of the most prejudiced and insulting shows I have ever watched. Prejudiced and insulting to small town Saskatchewan. It also wasn't a risk, it was a cheap copy of corner gas which the CBC rejected when Brent Butt first pitched it.

Aside from that I fully agree with of what the mandate of the CBC should be but the CBC due to all of our cuts behaves the same as the for profit broadcaster looking for profit over the promotion of Canada.

[MarchHare]

I agree with your post but Little Mosque on the Praire was a terrible show. It was one of the most prejudiced and insulting shows I have ever watched. Prejudiced and insulting to small town Saskatchewan. It also wasn't a risk, it was a cheap copy of corner gas which the CBC rejected when Brent Butt first pitched it.

I never watched it, but Little Mosque on the Prairie was a huge ratings hit for the CBC, and they were even able to sell its rebroadcast rights to networks in many other countries. Isn't that exactly what the CBC-haters here want? For the network to produce popular, profitable programming?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Anything to try and turn the spotlight away from the disaster that is the CPC of late.

You really are a troll aren't you?

What the hell does anything going on with the CPC have to do with this? Are people not allowed to debate anything other than what you think should be allowed?

You are a caricature at this point....and very telling you didnt address a single thing about the topic....your act is very transparent.