[Rumour] Flames sign Ramo (Can't be official until July 5)

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Browndog71

I am not 100% sure, but I think that Feaster mentioned at the Tuesday night season ticket holder session that the way MacDonald's contract was structured, he would not have to clear waivers to be sent down.

How does that work?

[FlamesAddiction]

I don't think that is possible. The NHLPA would never allow it.

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How does that work?

Given Feaster's understanding of waiver regulations(ROR), I wouldn't be surprised if he made a mistake

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How does that work?

Based on the same principles that said ROR didn't......

[Huntingwhale]

And thus ends the Kiprusoff era in Calgary....

I'm really looking forward to seeing Ramo in Flames' silks and how much more his skills have been refined. I wasn't impressed with him at all when he played in TB, but by all accounts he's been one of the top goalies wherever he's played. It would be pretty damn awesome if Ramo kept the last 10 years of solid Flames goaltending going. That makes 1 less hole to fill in the future.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Browndog71

I am not 100% sure, but I think that Feaster mentioned at the Tuesday night season ticket holder session that the way MacDonald's contract was structured, he would not have to clear waivers to be sent down.

I think he said that the money they gave MacDonlad would not effect the cap space for the flames if he was sent down.

[Browndog71]

**edit** Thinking back, he might have mentioned that it was how it would count (or not count) against the cap due to how it was structured.

I was partaking in the free beers, so forgive my confusion.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by FAN

I think differently. I think Ramo's contract will be one way. There's probably a clause in there that allows him to go back to the KHL if sent down. Guys like Ramo often protect themselves from the AHL.

You might be right, I could see that because of Ramo's bargaining position. I guess just ideally I'd hope Ramo is ok with making KHL type money on a 2-way in the AHL. Besides the money in his pocket he'd know they'd much prefer using him on the big club with that kind of contract. Who knows what everyone has been told behind closed doors but Flames management has been saying things are wide open for everyone to earn a spot in goal. If they add Ramo as a second guy on a one-way deal, that's not really leaving things all that wide open. They can always waive MacD, but I'd think they'd be really leery about doing it straight out of camp. Berra wouldn't be getting that much of a chance, or at the very least it would be easy for him to get the impression he wasn't. I suppose we'll probably see on July 5th.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieuwendyk

I can't see them spending assets on a high profile goalie until they find out what they've got in Ramo/Berra

Might be too late by then. I might take a flyer on someone like Tim Thomas or Bryzgalov if he gets bought out.

[Joe Nieuwendyk]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Might be too late by then. I might take a flyer on someone like Tim Thomas or Bryzgalov if he gets bought out.

Too late for what? To make the playoffs? I'd suggest it's too late for that already.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Joe Nieuwendyk

Too late for what? To make the playoffs? I'd suggest it's too late for that already.

Too late to get a decent NHL goaltender.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Browndog71

I am not 100% sure, but I think that Feaster mentioned at the Tuesday night season ticket holder session that the way MacDonald's contract was structured, he would not have to clear waivers to be sent down.

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[cznTiburon]

Everyone is talking Berra, ramo and Mac but I want to see them start everyone from scratch. Don't pencil anyone in and let's see what ortio and brossoit can do in camp too. Don't be afraid to play a kid if they show something special

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by cznTiburon

Everyone is talking Berra, ramo and Mac but I want to see them start everyone from scratch. Don't pencil anyone in and let's see what ortio and brossoit can do in camp too. Don't be afraid to play a kid if they show something special

I think at least some other posters are like me in not pencilling anyone in even if I'm just talking about those three guys for the job. I'd love for all of them to have an equal shot but may sometimes just talk about the most likely candidates in the course of discussion.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Might be too late by then. I might take a flyer on someone like Tim Thomas or Bryzgalov if he gets bought out.

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Too late to get a decent NHL goaltender.

I wouldn't worry about that. There are always more goaltenders in oddball situations that can come in and be a #1. If we miss the boat on Bernier, then we may find out that Fleury is on the market after his performance in this playoffs. And Luongo is always available to whoever will jump on that whale of a contract.

Lots of UFAs coming up this summer too. Backstrom, Thomas (if he decides to play again), Smith, Nabokov, Emery, etc.

If we want to change directions with our goalies, we can. I just don't see a point in worrying about it until after we see a season of Ramo / Berra.

MacDonald is a great backup and all that but I hope we trade him at the start of the season to a team that needs him (Canes?) and then platoon Ramo / Berra for the season to truly see what they both have going on at the NHL level.

[dammage79]

Broissoit I am not so sure he could make a solid push to be on the Flames opening roster. He is good but I feel he needs some ice time in the AHL or ECHL. Ortio has a chance to make a solid push, ultimately boild down to how Berra and Ramo pan out.

From what I have heard, Berra has a decent chance at being the starter. His size and agility could mask his rebound control issues. Ramo, I like him, he's seen the NHL and seasoned himself in the KHL. Camp is going to be very very interesting from a goaltending perspective.

In the end though I see Hartley throwing both Ramo and Berra right into the fire from opening day, having Joey Mac sitting back-up when things go awry. So a starting rotation of Ramo and Berra where on starts and one is in the press box with Macdonald sitting on the bench ready to take over.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by kehatch

From the sounds of it they already went after Bernier last season. Plus, Conroy said they are looking at their options in net.

Having to many good goalies is a good problem to have. Finding out that Berra/Ramo don't cut it on NA ice and being stuck with MacDonald as your starter would be pretty bad.

If the plan really is to make the playoffs, there's no way the Flames start the season with Ramo/Berra + MacDonald tandem in net. That would be the most unproven goaltending lineup in recent NHL history.

Personally, I'd be fine with throwing those guys in and setting ourselves up for another lottery pick. But I doubt management sees it that way. Expect the Flames to try to sign Smith or Emery.

[Freeway]

The Flames most likely are going to the dance with the five netminders they have on hand now.

[JiriHrdina]

Ramo is Plan A
Berra is Plan B
MacDonald is Plan C

I'm sure the organization is hoping Ramo/Berra is their new tandem. Mac is an insurance policy.

Gonna be an interesting year folks.

[jeffman]

I actually like brossoit over Berra and ramo, hopefully there will be room for him to take the number one job in the next 5 years