Flames 2013 Draft Discussion

[Canada 02]

the biggest surprise in Button's list is how many big changes there were, especially since there wasn't a lot of hockey for most of these players not playing in the Memorial Cup. The U18 only had a handful of games, mostly against inferior opponents

[icarus]

Are Button's position descriptions right? If so, he doesn't have a natural RW on his list until 37 (Zykov).

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Yep. 3 key players of theirs weren't even drafted in the first round too.

Patrice Bergeron - Picked in the 2nd round, 45th overall
David Krejci - Picked in the 2nd round, 63rd overall
Milan Lucic - Picked in the 2nd round, 50th overall

And it's worth noting that Boston had multiple 2nd rounders in the years they made those picks.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by icarus

Are Button's position descriptions right? If so, he doesn't have a natural RW on his list until 37 (Zykov).

Hartman @ 26

[icarus]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And it's worth noting that Boston had multiple 2nd rounders in the years they made those picks.

It should be noted that the Bergeron pick in the second round was extremely shrewd and bold drafting. Patrice Bergeron was a completely off-the-radar pick that year, none of the draft guides had him listed and I think he was way down or possibly absent from the CSS rankings as well.

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hartman @ 26

Yep, looks like he's a natural RW who plays C sometimes and not the other way around.

[Buck Murdock]

What would it take for Calgary to get a 4th 1st round pick?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

What would it take for Calgary to get a 4th 1st round pick?

The best chance at that is the other team with 3 first rounders, who have openly stated that those picks are available for veteran help.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by icarus

Are Button's position descriptions right? If so, he doesn't have a natural RW on his list until 37 (Zykov).

Nichushkin is listed as RW by some but he shoots left.

Craig's list highlights how much we could use a few 2nd rounders. Some 1st round types will drop into the 2nd, it's inevitable.

[Robbob]

I would almost be tempted to trade back a position or two with the Pitts pick to pick up additional picks in the top 60.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Craig Button has released his final rankings today: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

Petan ahead of Horvat, Lazar, etc? Disagree and I suspect the Flames do too.

Man if we could move up slightly to get Horvat I think you have to do it. If we picked by his list I like Ristolainen, Bowey or Rychel at #22 and at #28 I like Pulock, Lazar, Zykov, McCoshen, Heatherington, Mueller, Theodore, Hagg, etc.

Where's McCarron on his list? I thought he guy had a ridiculous U-18 and is a 6'5 powerforward?

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Where's McCarron on his list? I thought he guy had a ridiculous U-18 and is a 6'5 powerforward?

I'm not a big McCarron fan but his stock is definitely rising. Reminds me a lot of Hugh Jessiman and I think he could surprise and go in the top 15. Unfortunately for Flames fans, this is a guy who I could see the Flames going for.

[MrMastodonFarm]

I keep forgetting we have three first rounders. Can't wait for the draft.

Will be cool to see the photo ops post-1st round with three new Flames.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Petan ahead of Horvat, Lazar, etc? Disagree and I suspect the Flames do too.

Man if we could move up slightly to get Horvat I think you have to do it. If we picked by his list I like Ristolainen, Bowey or Rychel at #22 and at #28 I like Pulock, Lazar, Zykov, McCoshen, Heatherington, Mueller, Theodore, Hagg, etc.

Where's McCarron on his list? I thought he guy had a ridiculous U-18 and is a 6'5 powerforward?

I speculated a theory last night where the Flames could trade up to 17 @ Ottawas pick. certainly do-able with them looking for scoring wingers. 22 and Cammy for 17th and a D prospect. Ceci may not be do-able but there is wiggle room to make it happen.

Say Craigs list has some validity and Ristolainen and Zykov fall that low. Thats as best a first round as you could possibly ask for.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I keep forgetting we have three first rounders. Can't wait for the draft.

Will be cool to see the photo ops post-1st round with three new Flames.

Ya, its amazing... the more I learn about these players, the more I want Feaster to pick up more Top 60 picks!!!

This is allegedly a deep draft, but because of the 3 first rounders, this is by far the most attention I've ever given to the draft, so it seems like an especially deep draft from my perspective

I assume there are other Flames fans in the same boat.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I speculated a theory last night where the Flames could trade up to 17 @ Ottawas pick. certainly do-able with them looking for scoring wingers. 22 and Cammy for 17th and a D prospect. Ceci may not be do-able but there is wiggle room to make it happen.

Say Craigs list has some validity and Ristolainen and Zykov fall that low. Thats as best a first round as you could possibly ask for.

I'm not sure how eager the Sens are to part with Ceci, but I think the basic structure of this deal makes great sense for both teams.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Ya, its amazing... the more I learn about these players, the more I want Feaster to pick up more Top 60 picks!!!

This is allegedly a deep draft, but because of the 3 first rounders, this is by far the most attention I've ever given to the draft, so it seems like an especially deep draft from my perspective

I assume there are other Flames fans in the same boat.

Same here. Usually I try to focus on the section of the draft where the Flames are. This year it is super fun as I get to focus on the whole draft board

[Huntingwhale]

Probably the first time ever in my life I've been more excited about the draft and coudln't care less about the cup. This is new territory for Flames fans. As much as it sucked watching the team lose, its pretty cool knowing we have some pretty good talent headed our way. I just hope to God the management team doesn't screw it up. As much as l think the hockey gods are always against us, having 3 first rounders in a draft this incredibly deep is truly a blessing.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Craig Button has released his final rankings today: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649
RK Player Last Team DOB Pos. S Ht/Wt GP G A Pts +/-
13. Samuel Morin 32 Rimouski (QMJHL) Jul. 12/95 D L 6'7/200 46 4 12 16 +10

That is a massive leap by Morin. I really wanted to grab him with the Pens pick and was even willing to go for him with the Blues pick. If this jump is any indication though, we will be lucky to see him fall to the Flames later picks.

[Max Cow Disease]

Wow, Fucale at 7th.

[Rhettzky]

I don't know why but it really scared me to see Fucale up so high. I don't really care if we pick him low in the 1st but I imagine this place would burn to the ground if we took him at #6.