Revolution (Now with spoilers!)

[Stay Golden]

Now that Munroe has power the entire scenerio of battle against him is a stretch especially with this new character that has emerged. Like it wasn't lopsided enough.
But my household will still continue to watch it. Its entertaining good mix of characters and i like the cast.

They need to have Miles group to locate at least 1 of the other pendents to make it more interesting.

[Thor]

Yeah that was just laughable, I'm done with this show.

[ken0042]

What the heck did she pull out of him at the end? I thought she was going to dig out one of the bullets- for some kind of revenge. But that thing lit up.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by ken0042

What the heck did she pull out of him at the end? I thought she was going to dig out one of the bullets- for some kind of revenge. But that thing lit up.

It's the mystery they try to hook you with after writing a terrible script... Looks like it didn't work for some.

[Daradon]

Was about to pack it in on this show when they got to break, decided to see if the big reveal and big cliffhanger was worth it.

It wasn't. In fact it might have been one of the worst episodes yet.

Monroe has one of the few necklaces that they've been searching half a year for? No worry, I know someone else just a few hours away that has one.

Besides, if Monroe is using the amplifier and bringing it along with his attacks anyway, wouldn't the rebels be able to use their machines too when he comes by?

The actors are bad, the characters aren't very interesting, the plot isn't interesting anymore and often doesn't even make sense.

Makes me sad this show remained and they pulled off Last Resort. It wasn't amazing, but a hell of a lot better than this.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Was about to pack it in on this show when they got to break, decided to see if the big reveal and big cliffhanger was worth it.

It wasn't. In fact it might have been one of the worst episodes yet.

Monroe has one of the few necklaces that they've been searching half a year for? No worry, I know someone else just a few hours away that has one.

Besides, if Monroe is using the amplifier and bringing it along with his attacks anyway, wouldn't the rebels be able to use their machines too when he comes by?

The actors are bad, the characters aren't very interesting, the plot isn't interesting anymore and often doesn't even make sense.

Makes me sad this show remained and they pulled off Last Resort. It wasn't amazing, but a hell of a lot better than this.

Monroe's amplifier went up ACDC'd (shot down in flames).

I still want to know where they got a cart, horse, uniforms, dead bodies, and caskets.

As I said at my last orgy, too many holes.

[JerzeeGirl]

Originally Posted by ken0042

What the heck did she pull out of him at the end? I thought she was going to dig out one of the bullets- for some kind of revenge. But that thing lit up.

I was thinking it was some kind of mini-amplifier, like if he had a pacemaker or something and that was powering it (at least that explains why they went to that specific hospital flashback all about his unexplained experimental procedure).

Guess we'll find out at some point, not sure that I care tho.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Monroe's amplifier went up ACDC'd (shot down in flames).

I still want to know where they got a cart, horse, uniforms, dead bodies, and caskets.

As I said at my last orgy, too many holes.

I lol'd

[ken0042]

So is anybody else still watching? If it wasn't for the CityTV app so I could watch on the bus I may have bailed again. However a couple of interesting developments. I will use spoilers just in case.

We found out why the "weapon" was deployed:

Spoiler!

Flynn (The guy working for the Defense Dept) was in the process of aquiring the weapon as we know. However in the process his son was killed in action in Afghanistan. Flynn rushed the weapon through; and was obsessed so that the war could be ended quickly. Everybody else had concerns about the possible effects except for Flynn.

We also know how the electricity stays off:

Spoiler!

The effect is created by a series of nanoprobes. Each nanoprobe has two instructions; absorb electricity and replicate itself. So obviously the replication process got out of hand, and the effect spead worldwide.

So what is happening now?

Spoiler!

The weapon was deployed from a place called "The Tower." Rachel is now going to cross the Plains Nation by herself on suicide mission to find out what went wrong and to try to reverse the effect. Of course it is a suicide mission and she is one of the few people alive who even knows what the problem is- so she is going to go alone for some reason.

And a funny tidbit- we found out who is running California; Governor Afflec.

[Daradon]

If these nanoprobes are being inhaled like she said, why aren't they killing people by absorbing their electric impulses?

Lame.

[flamesfan6]

Originally Posted by ken0042

So what is happening now?

Spoiler!

The weapon was deployed from a place called "The Tower." Rachel is now going to cross the Plains Nation by herself on suicide mission to find out what went wrong and to try to reverse the effect. Of course it is a suicide mission and she is one of the few people alive who even knows what the problem is- so she is going to go alone for some reason.

And a funny tidbit- we found out who is running California; Governor Afflec.

Spoiler!

well she isn't going alone, Aaron is going with her.

...well...okay she's going alone

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Daradon

If these nanoprobes are being inhaled like she said, why aren't they killing people by absorbing their electric impulses?

Lame.

That is a plot hole that you just have to set aside. There are other much bigger holes to be concerned about.

I put my initial posts in spoiler tags as I bumped the thread from page 3; however I think we are OK to talk about it now.

So Monroe now has a nuclear bomb. That brings me to a couple of big questions:
- Could you operate a nuclear bomb with no electronics? Assuming there is some way the nuclear reaction could work (I don't know how nuclear bombs work)- how would you detonate it? Some sort of fuse? Or would you have to sacrifice one of the pendants?
- Isn't one of the side effects of a nuclear blast an EMP? Seeing the blackout is being caused by nanoprobes; would they be disabled by the EMP? Would that restore power to an area; at least temporarily?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ken0042

That is a plot hole that you just have to set aside. There are other much bigger holes to be concerned about.

I put my initial posts in spoiler tags as I bumped the thread from page 3; however I think we are OK to talk about it now.

So Monroe now has a nuclear bomb. That brings me to a couple of big questions:
- Could you operate a nuclear bomb with no electronics? Assuming there is some way the nuclear reaction could work (I don't know how nuclear bombs work)- how would you detonate it? Some sort of fuse? Or would you have to sacrifice one of the pendants?
- Isn't one of the side effects of a nuclear blast an EMP? Seeing the blackout is being caused by nanoprobes; would they be disabled by the EMP? Would that restore power to an area; at least temporarily?

Considering that the firing of a nuclear weapon uses precisely timed electronically fired explosive triggers and that in order for that to happen, the bomb almost has to have a precise altimeter that tells it when the explosion needs to happen, I don't think you can do it without electricity unless your willing to sit there and precisely calculate the lengths of several hundred fuses and then sit in the bomb and light them all at the same . . .

Never mind, I haven't started watching the show since the mid break but have the last four episodes recorded, it almost sounds like its too stupid to blow 4 hours on.

[ken0042]

I think this is more of a ground based bomb; so more like the one in James Bond "View to a Kill" and less like the ones used in WWII or on an ICBM.

Nevermind that- the whole nanoprobe thing blows away the helicopters working. I get how based on the physics of the show the pendants could disable the nanoprobes within a certain radius. However with a helicopter flying at speed it would have to create such a large field that everybody within kilometres would also have their electronics working. So they wouldn't have had to strap a pendant to a SAM missile.

(I'm not helping you want to watch- am I CC?)

[SebC]

I think the US got an episode Canada didn't... do we catch up this week? I thought I recorded a new episode on my PVR but when I went to play it back it was something else from City (even though I recorded NBC).

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I think this is more of a ground based bomb; so more like the one in James Bond "View to a Kill" and less like the ones used in WWII or on an ICBM.

Nevermind that- the whole nanoprobe thing blows away the helicopters working. I get how based on the physics of the show the pendants could disable the nanoprobes within a certain radius. However with a helicopter flying at speed it would have to create such a large field that everybody within kilometres would also have their electronics working. So they wouldn't have had to strap a pendant to a SAM missile.

(I'm not helping you want to watch- am I CC?)

Not really

I'm disapointed with the nanite idea, it makes sense and is probably the easiest way to explain the lack of electricity, but first and foremost you would think that the creators would have created a GI Joe style kill switch. And if these things basically what nullify electricity that no life would exist anywhere. On the good side, no thunderstorms, on the bad side no more shuffling across the carpet in your bare feet to surprise shocker your significant other.

Not to get into nuclear bomb theory but you still use electronic switches to time fire the shaped charged explosions inwards and it has to be precisely fired usually using a computer chip.

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by SebC

I think the US got an episode Canada didn't... do we catch up this week? I thought I recorded a new episode on my PVR but when I went to play it back it was something else from City (even though I recorded NBC).

nope, this weeks episode was preempted cause of the Boston explosions and will air next week.

[CaptainCrunch]

I caught up with the rest of the season during a 6 hour bus ride with the Rage last weekend. It actually had a strong season one ending that sets up what is literally a series reboot in season two.

Spoiler!

Nora is dead
Neville took over the Monroe Militia, Monroe is on the run
They turned the power back on globally
The Atlanta military with power prepared to attack Philly
Flynn with the power back then nuked Philly and Atlanta
Flynn then proclaimed himself a patriot and then blew his head off.
The American President in exile is on the way back to restore order.

Some dumb things. The Tower not only had control of the nanomites, but it also had a big red button that launched nukes, and if you shot the button you couldn't stop the nukes. Charlie while hot is still not a good actress and is the dumbest hero ever. The U.S. government has terrible IT security.

Speculation

Miles and Monroe and the rest are now going to have to join together to fight a new revolutionary war against the American Government.

There's the question about who accessed the back door and activated all of the nanomites

Neville is actually a exceptionally strong villain, but his power base in Philly is gone after the nuking, he maybe has 100 men in the middle of Colorado. What's his move.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I caught up with the rest of the season during a 6 hour bus ride with the Rage last weekend. It actually had a strong season one ending that sets up what is literally a series reboot in season two.

Spoiler!

Nora is dead
Neville took over the Monroe Militia, Monroe is on the run
They turned the power back on globally
The Atlanta military with power prepared to attack Philly
Flynn with the power back then nuked Philly and Atlanta
Flynn then proclaimed himself a patriot and then blew his head off.
The American President in exile is on the way back to restore order.

Some dumb things. The Tower not only had control of the nanomites, but it also had a big red button that launched nukes, and if you shot the button you couldn't stop the nukes. Charlie while hot is still not a good actress and is the dumbest hero ever. The U.S. government has terrible IT security.

Speculation

Miles and Monroe and the rest are now going to have to join together to fight a new revolutionary war against the American Government.

There's the question about who accessed the back door and activated all of the nanomites

Neville is actually a exceptionally strong villain, but his power base in Philly is gone after the nuking, he maybe has 100 men in the middle of Colorado. What's his move.

Some of those story lines interest me......might have to catch up and try again in the fall.

[SebC]

I disagree with CC entirely, I thought the season finale bombed. We can basically sum up season 1 as

Spoiler!

A lot of people died and they turned the power back on, which solved nothing. They just discarded their major story device (the power), without a good payoff. What is this show now? A series about a morally questionable government and the people who are fighting it in a world that has power? So basically, an inferior version of Homeland, or even Last Resort. In terms of setting up Season 2, they'll need to build something in the first few episodes, because the Season 1 finale ended a lot of storylines without really replacing them with anything I particularly care about.