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Old 06-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #4981
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Going back to the Draft Value chart:
Preds:
#4 = 783
#66 = 177
TOTAL: 960

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#6 = 702
#30 = 265
TOTAL: 967

That is as close to an even deal as you will find in the league. basically trade down a round+ to move up two spots to get Barkov.

I'm down.
Is that a trade they couldn't refuse though? I think they want scoring instead of shuffled draft picks and a later NHL ready player.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:19 PM   #4982
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Cammy and 30 for #4, I'd do it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:20 PM   #4983
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Going back to the Draft Value chart:
Preds:
#4 = 783
#66 = 177
TOTAL: 960

Flames:
#6 = 702
#30 = 265
TOTAL: 967

That is as close to an even deal as you will find in the league. basically trade down a round+ to move up two spots to get Barkov.

I'm down.
Those charts are just a starting point and a other factors can heavily override them:

- valuation of individual prospects in the range of the pick (ie: big drop-off in talent vs no drop-off)
- organizational need for player type, position, and timing of contribution
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #4984
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Is that a trade they couldn't refuse though? I think they want scoring instead of shuffled draft picks and a later NHL ready player.
Its a trade that is much more likely than trading our mediocre vets and a late 1st for their top 4 pick.

If they are trading a top 4 pick they are going to want quality back not a bunch of late picks and a 2nd line player over 30.
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Probably already mentioned amongst these 200 pages but seems Dale Tallon open to trading #2:

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Old 06-03-2013, 03:40 PM   #4986
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Cammy and 30 for #4, I'd do it.
Would have to throw in #22 as well.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:43 PM   #4987
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Probably already mentioned amongst these 200 pages but seems Dale Tallon open to trading #2:
If that's the case, and given Feaster's comments... you better believe the Flames would be interested. Unlike other teams, they can give a great draft pick back in return (the #6), and whatever else you'd have to negotiate in there.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:45 PM   #4988
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Cammy and 30 for #4, I'd do it.
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Would have to throw in #22 as well.
How about:

Cammy and #30 for #14 (Columbus)
#14 and #22 for #4 (Nashville)
#4 and #6 for #2 and #31 (Florida)

...providing the Avs do indeed take Jones, because if they took MacKinnon I'd rather just keep #4 and #6 and take Barkov and Lindholm/Monahan.

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Supposedly the Sabres are being aggressive in trying to move up as well. We aren't the only team able/willing to potentially move up.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:54 PM   #4990
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How about:

Cammy and #30 for #14 (Columbus)
#14 and #22 for #4 (Nashville)
#4 and #6 for #2 and #31 (Florida)

...providing the Avs do indeed take Jones, because if they took MacKinnon I'd rather just keep #4 and #6 and take Barkov and Lindholm/Monahan.

haha

Even with MacKinnon on the table it would be wise to hold on to 4 and 6 if we could somehow come away with both picks. Barkov and Monahan would be sick moving forward. Who knows maybe we could even get Drouin if Tampa goes Russian
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How about:

Cammy and #30 for #14 (Columbus)
#14 and #22 for #4 (Nashville)
#4 and #6 for #2 and #31 (Florida)

...providing the Avs do indeed take Jones, because if they took MacKinnon I'd rather just keep #4 and #6 and take Barkov and Lindholm/Monahan.

haha
If rather take #4 and #6 than #2 and #31.

Barkov + Monahan/Lindholm >>>>>>>>>> MacKinnon + whoever (still a decent prospect).
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definitely. if we can make the moves to get two top 5 picks, keep them and grab barkov + lindolm/monahan.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:06 PM   #4993
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Even with MacKinnon on the table it would be wise to hold on to 4 and 6 if we could somehow come away with both picks. Barkov and Monahan would be sick moving forward. Who knows maybe we could even get Drouin if Tampa goes Russian
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If rather take #4 and #6 than #2 and #31.

Barkov + Monahan/Lindholm >>>>>>>>>> MacKinnon + whoever (still a decent prospect).
I agree, but I had to keep going.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:31 PM   #4994
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How about:

Cammy and #30 for #14 (Columbus)
#14 and #22 for #4 (Nashville)
#4 and #6 for #2 and #31 (Florida)

...providing the Avs do indeed take Jones, because if they took MacKinnon I'd rather just keep #4 and #6 and take Barkov and Lindholm/Monahan.

haha
If Feaster was able to somehow convert Cammellari, the #6 and #22 picks to the #2 and #4 picks (the 30th and 31st pick are basically a wash), I have no problems in saying I'll develop a serious man crush on his GM'ing skills, and forgive him for all the blunders he's made so far.
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:14 PM   #4995
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If Feaster was able to somehow convert Cammellari, the #6 and #22 picks to the #2 and #4 picks (the 30th and 31st pick are basically a wash), I have no problems in saying I'll develop a serious man crush on his GM'ing skills, and forgive him for all the blunders he's made so far.
In this scenario he only has the #2 pick. Not #4
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Yah, if you consider the Pitts 1st and FLA 2nd a wash, then it would be...

Cammy, #22, #6 for #2
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:30 PM   #4997
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How about:

Cammy and #30 for #14 (Columbus)
#14 and #22 for #4 (Nashville)
#4 and #6 for #2 and #31 (Florida)

...providing the Avs do indeed take Jones, because if they took MacKinnon I'd rather just keep #4 and #6 and take Barkov and Lindholm/Monahan.

haha
Columbus might do it
Nashville passes in a big way. (adding Backlund might get them thinking)
Florida probably does it.

One things for sure, if Colorado picks Jones Feaster will be busy working the phones.
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In this scenario he only has the #2 pick. Not #4
Whoops, misread that. I guess it's Cammy, the 22nd, and 30th for the 4th. That's still a steal of a deal, and if Feaster can pull that off, he'd be a God in my eyes. Can you imagine Barkov/Drouin AND Lindholm/Monahan?
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Whoops, misread that. I guess it's Cammy, the 22nd, and 30th for the 4th. That's still a steal of a deal, and if Feaster can pull that off, he'd be a God in my eyes. Can you imagine Barkov/Drouin AND Lindholm/Monahan?
Misread it again Yen Man...

Cammy + 22nd + 6th <-FOR-> 2nd
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Misread it again Yen Man...

Cammy + 22nd + 6th <-FOR-> 2nd
Yikes, can you tell it's nearing the end of the workday for me?

Hmm, so third's a charm, lets hope I got this right.

If he keeps the 4th and the 6th, then it's Cammy + 22nd + 30th for the 4th? I'd still do it.
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