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[VladtheImpaler]

Can someone ask how they plan to be a "cap team"? Do they plan to trade for Luongo, Richards, overpay for some mediocre UFA's? How do they plan to spend that extra $20-25M?

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Can someone ask how they plan to be a "cap team"? Do they plan to trade for Luongo, Richards, overpay for some mediocre UFA's? How do they plan to spend that extra $20-25M?

Similar to this, I wish I had asked their thoughts on what Dallas did with Jagr. I would love to see the Flames use some cap space to 'overpay' a couple guys like Jagr and then flip them at the deadline for picks and prospects. We would have paid most of their salary already and could even pick up half the remaining cap hit if it really mattered to the other team and hopefully get better picks.

Similarly, I would like to know if our ownership is open to retaining salary on a player we trade away to improve what we get in return.

[Max Cow Disease]

Look for the regular dude with some
hair and a pair of pants. That's me.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Dagger

Even though I'm sure it wasn't done on purpose by any of the vets, at the very least it's a reminder that there is an expectation for them to take that extra step/time whenever it's applicable. Both of those players were/are obviously adjusting to having a higher stature in the dressing room after Iginla left but being really picky I think naturally not doing so is different from someone like Dion, who allegedly left because of a disagreement in leadership style from the Iginla/Regehr and co.(which he was proven right about). Changing the culture around the room is going to be big for how successful we are going forward and if Giordano/Cammy/Glencross don't deviate from the status quo established by the previous leadership group I don't think it's good for the development of the younger guys in there.

Going back to Dion, he went into the Leafs room and earned the respect of his teammates, coaches and executives very quickly. He changed the culture of the Leafs room and practices(right from the mouth of Burke and Wilson) and as the team transitioned to a playoff one had them 1:41 away from the 2nd round after many of them had never experienced the playoffs before. We need that kind of difference maker. It's why I'm beginning to think that barring surprises, if it comes down to Lindholm or Monahan we should take Monahan. I think Lindholm might have the better on ice-production of the two, but will be behind Monahan in terms of impact in terms of behind the scenes work and making the team click.

It took dion messier four years of turning up the radio before he was able to lead the leafs into the playoffs. Guess he should have turned the radio up even higher before game 7 if he wanted to avoid one of the most epic choke-jobs in recent history.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by JD

Conroy telling the story was great. When he was asked to speak to the dressing room dynamic, he started out tentatively, almost as though he hadn't planned on talking at all, and then once he got rolling, well... he rolled.

But the best part is when he got to the point where he saw Hanowski sitting alone and asked him why he wasn't with the other guys for lunch, "and then, well, I LOST IT!!!"... Craig Conroy, aka, the Champ.

Conroy related back to the Heritage Classic and how the 89 Flames welcomed him into the room and how that was one of the reasons they were successful, that they truly had a great room and treated everyone like family. He went on to describe how Al MacInnis brought that attitude to the Blues dressing room and it's a big part of why that franchise was successful during that time. He said we need to re-establish that in order to bring back the winning culture. Can't say I disagree.

Thanked this mostly because of your reference to "The Champ"!

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Max Cow Disease

Look for the regular dude with some
hair and a pair of pants. That's me.

I think i see you...with the legs and and arms and such

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by sun

It took dion messier four years of turning up the radio before he was able to lead the leafs into the playoffs. Guess he should have turned the radio up even higher before game 7 if he wanted to avoid one of the most epic choke-jobs in recent history.

3 after he got the captaincy. The Leafs had a pretty bad team with no goaltending, and he was still maturing as a player. He was a big reason why the culture in the dressing room was ripe for Carlyle, and his willingness to learn and listen to ideas allowed him to become a much better player and worthy of a Norris nomination in the near future according to Leaf fans.

All I'm saying is that as the Leafs grew as a team, he was at the forefront and lead a culture conclusive to winning. Phaneuf recognized the problem in our room and let his voice be heard, to the dismay of the established and catered to veterans in our room. Since then we've missed the playoffs every year and been on a downwards trend, and the Leafs have been turning it around after some short sighted errors by Burke. A team with Bozak as it's first line centre, and an inexperienced netminder somehow managed to be the 5th seed and take a very good team 7 games by managing to outwork a gritty team with many SC winners....how is that accomplished? Leadership in the room. What have the Flames lacked on many nights? Desire and responsibility. Our next long term captain cannot be cut of that same cloth, and I feel passing the torch from a player who came up through an Iginla lead room isn't a long term solution.

[Cole436]

Iginla's "5 more games" was a punch in the gut.
He really did love this team. Screw you, Feaster.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Cole436

Iginla's "5 more games" was a punch in the gut.
He really did love this team. Screw you, Feaster.

This team was broken before Feaster came along.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

This team was broken before Feaster came along.

2 years ago Feaster spoke of getting a more mobile puck moving defence. More skill in his lineup, size be damned. Today he laments his lack of size and his goaltenders being run. To me that seems inconsistant and indescisive. The team may have been broken, but I don't believe they have the right guy fixing it.

[Howie_16]

Crowchild Trail is shutdown, so I'm not able to attend. I submitted a question asking how the Flames organization and fanbase benefitted from the last lockout. I'm convinced that we would definitely be picking in the top three if we played a full 82 games this year.

If someone in attendance could let me know if the question is asked (or could ask on my behalf) and report on the response in this thread, I'd really appreciate it.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

This team was broken before Feaster came along.

True. Feaster just broke it even more by trading the team's last valuable chips for pennies on the dollar.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

2 years ago Feaster spoke of getting a more mobile puck moving defence. More skill in his lineup, size be damned. Today he laments his lack of size and his goaltenders being run. To me that seems inconsistant and indescisive. The team may have been broken, but I don't believe they have the right guy fixing it.

Fully agreed. His flip flops was the gist of my question (or one of ones I had ready) if I was able to go tonight, but a last minute child sickness has me at home.

Feaster did everything to distance himself from Darryl in those first few months, saying whatever was wanting to be heard by a disgruntled fan base.

Fitting that the end of the road for Iginla was, as Feaster said, when Sutter and LA beat them back to back....and beat them on the scoreboard, but on the ice as each line was outweighed and out hit severely... Darryl's team vs Feaster's anti-Darryl team.

Now, the 180 switch back, as its clear big does not equal dumb and slow like Feaster pontificated at the time. That little experiment cost at least two half seasons, but he's the one to once again spend a bunch of money and make the ultimate selections for the way this team is going to be shaped the next half decade? No thanks. Been over this again and again, and there's a reason he was out of the league for a while. He got his foot in the door, talked a good game to KK and the owners to get the full time gig when Darryl got fired...in addition to being a GM who would have no problem taking constant "advice" (don't call it meddling) from those two groups instead of forging his own path...a path that as Sly said, doesn't appear to be one that he'd be confident in anyways.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Can someone ask how they plan to be a "cap team"? Do they plan to trade for Luongo, Richards, overpay for some mediocre UFA's? How do they plan to spend that extra $20-25M?

I was there tonight. Feaster said they will explore players that are bought out but they don't like the UFA pool this year. He said expect most of the added cap to come via trade.

Other notes it looks lime Nemisz is getting another opportunity and they will be aggressive to move up. Look to the Tampa pick as they Re in cap trouble

[dammage79]

By the looks of it Tampa Bay doesn't really need to rid any salary as they will have 3.3m in cap space with 2 or 3 positions needing to be filled. Unless they want to move on from Malone or Vinny I don't see who else Calgary would be willing to take. Salo or Ohlund scare me. Both are old and made of glass. 6 more years of Vinny is scary too as much as I like him.

EDIT: I guess two years of a broken Salo wouldn't kill the team, Maybe Backlund and the 6th for Vinny and the third or something weird?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

By the looks of it Tampa Bay doesn't really need to rid any salary as they will have 6m in cap space with all positions filled. Unless they want to move on from Malone or Vinny I don't see who else Calgary would be willing to take. Salo or Ohlund scare me. Both are old and made of glass. 6 more years of Vinny is scary too as much as I like him.

Tampa has less than $3.5M in cap space with 17 players signed. They are in a bit of trouble

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tampa has less than $3.5M in cap space with 17 players signed. They are in a bit of trouble

Yeah I caught that and made an edit. Still not dire though. Crap thing for them is everyone but Hedman that makes any money on D has NTC.

[rogermexico]

We're going to end up with Lecavalier.

[mikephoen]

Tanguay and the 6th for Vinny and the 3rd? Would people here do that?

Can't image they would want Tanguay as he was awful the first time he was there. But Vinny has 45M left to be paid and a horrid cap hit to go with it.

What about the Blues pick and the Pens pick for Vinny and the 3rd? That cap hit is TERRIBLE, so it should cost them a lot to get rid of it.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Oh god. I really, really, REALLY hope we don't get Lecaviler and his anchor of a contract. Would Drouin truly be worth it?