28 Students In Quebec Strip Searched To Find Missing Cell During Test

[Locke]

I cant believe the staff thought they had the right to strip-search students.

They didnt think they were overstepping their authority? Even a little? What else have they been doing that they shouldnt be?

I'm trying to think of High School and if teachers took me into a room alone and told me to strip to be searched I'd be promptly calling the cops.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

The worst crime in this story is a reporter and editor who thought it was acceptable to not tell their readers if the cell phone was found or at least offer an "officials refused to say if the cell phone was found or not."

Cowperson

I imagine they did find the thief given they were all strip searched. I can't imagine these days given the size of smart phones it would be difficult to detect just by patting a person down. Removal of all clothing is extreme. It is Quebec though.

[Bootsy]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant believe the staff thought they had the right to strip-search students.

They didnt think they were overstepping their authority? Even a little? What else have they been doing that they shouldnt be?

I'm trying to think of High School and if teachers took me into a room alone and told me to strip to be searched I'd be promptly calling the cops.

I would have refused or reported them too, unless it was done by the hottie teacher Ms.Day then I would have eagerly accepted.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Locke

I'm trying to think of High School and if teachers took me into a room alone and told me to strip to be searched I'd be promptly calling the cops.

Maybe that was the plan; do something that would make a student call the cops. Then when the student pulls out the cell phone in question...... busted!

There was also a previous post about calling the phone. The question is- how would the teachers know the number?

[Canuck-Hater]

Sexual assault charges should be laid. This is completely disgusting.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Maybe that was the plan; do something that would make a student call the cops. Then when the student pulls out the cell phone in question...... busted!

There was also a previous post about calling the phone. The question is- how would the teachers know the number?

I was thinking about that, but that bluff is called when a teacher has a naked student on their hands.

They do not have the authority to detain, strip or search a student.

Even if it was a bluff to con the kid out of showing the phone, they'd still be liable for unlawful detainment.

These are teachers, not law officers. I know they moan about how little they get paid but taking a cop's job isnt the answer. The kid broke test regulations, not the law.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Man you guys had it easy. We weren't allowed to bring calculators to tests when I went to school. We got a piece of paper and a pencil.

Anyways it was too heavy to sneak in a calculator as they were two feet wide and 3 feet long, were powered by 20 9 volt batteries and could only calculate out to 4 digits.

Originally Posted by Cheese

when I went to school a calculator was "your brain".

Seems we have lost those as well these days.

To be fair the curriculum has changed quite a bit since then. I remember having to get a graphing calculator for high school. The teachers aren't worried if you know your basic facts, because you already should. They just want to see if you can properly work through problems. If you don't know the equations you should use, or how to simplify them it doesn't matter what you plug into your calculator, your still wrong.

Not to say you guys didn't have to do algebra or trig like that, just that math courses have changed, and I dare say, gotten more complex in 50 years.

Sadly, I will agree there are still some kids (and adults)who can't do their basic facts. I always had fun with those. But like spell check, I guess it's something that machines have taken over.

Anyone who is serious about math will know their basic facts. Just like anyone who is serious about writing will know how to spell.

[GreenLantern2814]

Having had my cell phone stolen at work several months ago, I can only wish the saddle dome security staff had pulled themselves away from their crosswords and John Grisham novels long enough to put forward one tenth this amount of effort into finding my property.

You go, Quebec.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant believe the staff thought they had the right to strip-search students.

They didnt think they were overstepping their authority? Even a little? What else have they been doing that they shouldnt be?

I'm trying to think of High School and if teachers took me into a room alone and told me to strip to be searched I'd be promptly calling the cops.

And with that new phone, you'd be able to do that.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Daradon

To be fair the curriculum has changed quite a bit since then. I remember having to get a graphing calculator for high school. The teachers aren't worried if you know your basic facts, because you already should. They just want to see if you can properly work through problems. If you don't know the equations you should use, or how to simplify them it doesn't matter what you plug into your calculator, your still wrong.

Not to say you guys didn't have to do algebra or trig like that, just that math courses have changed, and I dare say, gotten more complex in 50 years.

Sadly, I will agree there are still some kids (and adults)who can't do their basic facts. I always had fun with those. But like spell check, I guess it's something that machines have taken over.

Anyone who is serious about math will know their basic facts. Just like anyone who is serious about writing will know how to spell.

How old do you think I am?

By the time I hit high school we were no longer doing calculations using dino droppings and actually had taken trig and calculus courses if we chose to.

Physics was a bear though because part of the test was re-enacting apples falling from a tree onto our head.

It was a real b$$tch in the winter because the old man always got upset when we took our coal shovel to school so we'd have something to write on.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by daradon

if you don't know the equations you should use, or how to simplify them it doesn't matter what you plug into your calculator, your still wrong.

Anyone who is serious about math will know their basic facts. just like anyone who is serious about writing will know how to spell.

lol

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Daradon

To be fair the curriculum has changed quite a bit since then. I remember having to get a graphing calculator for high school. The teachers aren't worried if you know your basic facts, because you already should. They just want to see if you can properly work through problems. If you don't know the equations you should use, or how to simplify them it doesn't matter what you plug into your calculator, your still wrong.

Not to say you guys didn't have to do algebra or trig like that, just that math courses have changed, and I dare say, gotten more complex in 50 years.

Sadly, I will agree there are still some kids (and adults)who can't do their basic facts. I always had fun with those. But like spell check, I guess it's something that machines have taken over.

Anyone who is serious about math will know their basic facts. Just like
anyone who is serious about writing will know how to spell.

Math has not gotten more complicated in the last 300 years. At least until you are in your 3rd year of a math degree at Universitiy. High School math is roughly 2000 years since the last major advancement.

In my opinion allowing calulators into a Math class is one of the worst things you can do. You don't need a graphing calculator to graph Hyperbolic and Parabolic equations. You don't need a calculator to do Trig (provided carefully chosen questions are used).

When I was in university (10 years ago) the prof gave out a grade 10 math test from the 60's. 70% of the students failed it.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GGG

Math has not gotten more complicated in the last 300 years. At least until you are in your 3rd year of a math degree at Universitiy. High School math is roughly 2000 years since the last major advancement.

In my opinion allowing calulators into a Math class is one of the worst things you can do. You don't need a graphing calculator to graph Hyperbolic and Parabolic equations. You don't need a calculator to do Trig (provided carefully chosen questions are used).

When I was in university (10 years ago) the prof gave out a grade 10 math test from the 60's. 70% of the students failed it.

I aced English and went on to get a degree in the subject. And guess what, I'm a terrible speller - a fact that not a single colleague knew when I was a professional writer in corporate communications and investor relations for five years because I could rely on dictionaries and spell checkers.

There is nothing wrong with using tools and technology that are readily available in the real world while getting your education. If you don't need a calculator, congratulations to you for being good at math, but that's not everybody's strength.

In high school math, calculators help people do well by removing an obstacle (the grunt work) so the bigger picture and larger concepts can be understood. Just because you're good at that type of math doesn't mean you should want to take it away from others who aren't.

And I love when people bring up how adults fail high school exams. BFD. I bet we'd all fail a high school social studies exam, too. Or even a junior high one for that matter. Half the people on here probably wouldn't be able to run around the gym for 15 minutes like we had to in grade 9. Etc.

[Barnet Flame]

I ####ing hated running round the fricken gym.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

I ####ing hated getting towel whipped after gym.

[Huntingwhale]

All the student should be expelled until the perpetrator is found.

[CaptainCrunch]

I was shakin' in my shoes
Whenever she flashed those baby-blues
Something had a hold on me
When angel passed close by

Those soft and fuzzy sweaters
Too magical to touch
Too see her in that negligee
Is really just too much

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[rayne008]

There must be more to this story - I can't imagine how any teacher thought this was a proper course of action.

I see the same article from a few days ago regurgitated by other news outlets, but nothing new since then.

[Bertuzzied]

Damn. i wish i could strip search the group of legal assistant students I had last week....

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Damn. i wish i could strip search the group of legal assistant students I had last week....

Yeah, those guys must work out.