Hmmm I can't see them doing anything less than retail (or just barely lower). $20 is more than enough for people to just swap disks for a day just for installation. Heck, $10 is probably enough for people to care to do it.
Part of me hoping they'd realize that they'd probably make more up in volume vs that $20 off buying retail I guess
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This trainwreck keeps getting better and better. The hell was Microsoft thinking? And what have they been doing since the PS4 was announced? Or their Orth scandal?
Considering they have been working with Telus for a couple of years to bring IPTV to the XBOX (Telus was the launch customer for mediaroom on XBOX) I think that is unlikely
I wouldn't be so sure about that since Shaw is moving towards IPTV as well. Tablets will be supported in the onset. A PS4 or Xbox could be supported sometime down the road as they would all be just HLS/HSS streams on some kind of secure player.
Well looks like Microsoft made it very easy for me. PS4 it is; better faster memory less of which is used up by having three different tasks running in the background, having the ability to sell my games, not having to log in once per day to play my games.
I mean what happens when the activation servers get turned off 10 years from now and I still want to play those games?
I haven't seen a confirmed report of what type of RAM the Xbox One will use but if it is indeed DDR3 I don't understand how people are comparing DDR3 to GDDR5. They are two totally different types of RAM for different purposes. In the end it'll probably result in a similar performance. Most high end games today (on PC) don't use more than 2 GB of VRAM. 8 should be plenty in either case.
I haven't seen a confirmed report of what type of RAM the Xbox One will use but if it is indeed DDR3 I don't understand how people are comparing DDR3 to GDDR5. They are two totally different types of RAM for different purposes. In the end it'll probably result in a similar performance. Most high end games today (on PC) don't use more than 2 GB of VRAM. 8 should be plenty in either case.
I believe both boxes use a unified memory architecture meaning memory is collectively shared between GPU and CPU so they are used for the same purpose on both systems. Difference being GDDR5 memory bandwidth is substantially better than the DDR3.
I believe both boxes use a unified memory architecture meaning memory is collectively shared between GPU and CPU so they are used for the same purpose on both systems. Difference being GDDR5 memory bandwidth is substantially better than the DDR3.
GDDR5 has a higher clock speed but only runs on a 32 bit bus whereas DDR3 runs on a 64 bit bus. Even though DDR3 is about half as fast, it's bus width is twice as wide so the bandwidth achieved is about the same as GDDR5. Also, GDDR5 has much poorer latency compared to DDR3.
GDDR5 has a higher clock speed but only runs on a 32 bit bus whereas DDR3 runs on a 64 bit bus. Even though DDR3 is about half as fast, it's bus width is twice as wide so the bandwidth achieved is about the same as GDDR5. Also, GDDR5 has much poorer latency compared to DDR3.
Except GDDR5 memory controllers handle input and output on the same clock cycle whereas DDR3 doesn't. It really depends on what kind of operation is going to be most prevalent on the system. For gaming and GPU operations GDDR is preferable, for multimedia probably DDR3. MS has the whole we want to replace every device in the living room so DDR3 makes sense in this case but will likely result in a hit for gaming.
If only there was some sort of comparable competitor not forcing you to do something so foolish...
Yes, but my friends are all buttholes and will get a Xbox One instead of the superior PS4. There are only two reasons why I am getting the Xbox One instead of a PS4, one: the controller is much better, I hate the PS controller and then two: all my friends will get an Xbox.
I really don't like the need for verification every 24 hours. I know that an internet connection is pretty much the norm these days, but something about not having 100% control of an offline game that I already bought rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, but my friends are all buttholes and will get a Xbox One instead of the superior PS4. There are only two reasons why I am getting the Xbox One instead of a PS4, one: the controller is much better, I hate the PS controller and then two: all my friends will get an Xbox.
As far as I have seen the specs are pretty well identical for both consoles and the Xbos has Direct X which makes it more seamless with PC development. All we heard was how much more powerful the PS3 was but at the end of the day most games looked identical on both platforms and a lot ran better on the 360.
Well, I bet this isn't how Microsoft thought its big day would end. What could/should have been a triumphant exclamation point, the day the next-gen console wars began in earnest, instead turned into a disaster I don't think any of us saw coming.
No matter where you turned today, whether it be Facebook, Twitter, forums or even people in *gasp* the real world, chances are if you wanted to talk about Xbox One, you ran into emotions that ranged from indifference right on down to hostility.
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I have no idea how the fruit who does the Microsoft conferences hasn't been fired. He looks like a pedophile, looks like a complete goof when he presents, comes off as a d-bag, and just loses credibility for Microsoft when he is presenting.
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Still stunned. I am still amazed how bad the message from Microsoft was today; they're going to be spinning or backpedalling for a long time.
I don't get how MS managed to screw up the presentation that badly with their unified platform message vs. gaming platform. Are they trying to save the games demos and what not for E3? Post reveal poll showing depth of how bad the consumer took things are showing up online. Not looking good for MS. http://kotaku.com/what-did-you-think...veal-509195085
XBOX releases console we can see but with no actual games people already new were coming and a call of duty game that will more than likely be a port from the 360/ps3 era which in turn really means a really good cod for either console wont be for another two or three years.Which will be the same for GTA4.While PS4 came out with no console and games that are gonna have the Sony delay guarantee stamped on them.
For Microsoft's sake, I hope yesterday was for the purpose of getting all of the unimportant stuff out of the way. They better have a big show at E3 with lots of games, especially exclusives, on display.
I'm still pretty baffled that MS would make this play. My prediction: Sony is doing the exact same thing and we just haven't heard about it yet. If you look at the language Sony has used, they've said you can play used games, but there's still room left to do what MS is doing.
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"When you purchase the disc-based games on PS4, it should work on any hardware. So that's what I'm saying," Yoshida said at the time.
The ramifications of Sony and MS going in different directions on this issue is potentially huge. As a consumer it would make more sense to go to Sony, but as a developer it makes far more sense to develop for the XBox. Does Sony keep it open and take a bump for the install base? Is that worth it if EA suddenly says they lose too much money to the used market and are going xbox exclusive for something like Madden? As much as I don't love the control MS is wielding here, it's the best possible news for the companies who are making the games.
I'm still pretty baffled that MS would make this play. My prediction: Sony is doing the exact same thing and we just haven't heard about it yet. If you look at the language Sony has used, they've said you can play used games, but there's still room left to do what MS is doing.
The ramifications of Sony and MS going in different directions on this issue is potentially huge. As a consumer it would make more sense to go to Sony, but as a developer it makes far more sense to develop for the XBox. Does Sony keep it open and take a bump for the install base? Is that worth it if EA suddenly says they lose too much money to the used market and are going xbox exclusive for something like Madden? As much as I don't love the control MS is wielding here, it's the best possible news for the companies who are making the games.
From day one I assumed that the PS4 and Xbox One would go the same route. Sony has just full on dodged the questions when they've been asked. It's long been rumoured that the PS4 would require installs and have a CD-key type activation. I am still fully expecting this to be the case.
