BC Provincial Politics Thread

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think people really wanted to vote NDP but Dix just didn't inspire any confidence, and they did a piss-poor job of presenting their platform.

I think it's more people really wanted to vote against or punish the Liberals, but were afraid of the NDP in power

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I think it's more people really wanted to vote against or punish the Liberals, but were afraid of the NDP in power

I don't even think it was that. Dix just doesn't inspire anything.

[Matty81]

If I had to summarize myself I'd say that rather than last minute changes of heart of the electorate this is more indicative that political polling is no longer reliable.

Phone and internet polling are clearly not capturing an accurate cross section of society anymore. A swing on the last day isn't unusual but we're talking about a 14-16% variance from the final polls in the ballot box. Huge

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I don't even think it was that. Dix just doesn't inspire anything.

ya I was going to add before you posted

with a quality leader, things might be different, but the whole campaign would be different, Liberals couldn't tie someone specific back to the failures of the 90s

my guess is the happiest person tonight is Gregor

I think he's the NDP leader by the next election

[d_phaneuf]

Global and Sun Media calling a Liberal majority as well now

[d_phaneuf]

Clark back in the lead in Point Grey

that is going to go back and forth all night

[opendoor]

Didn't really care who won, but I can't believe the NDP blew this election. If they can't win in this kind of climate, are they ever going to win again?

It'll be funny if Clark loses her seat though.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I think it's more people really wanted to vote against or punish the Liberals, but were afraid of the NDP in power

That perfectly describes my sentiment

[rubecube]

NDP blaming the pollsters. Sad.

[Matty81]

The right and left wings of BC politics both got battered tonight. NDP... obvious beat down, squandered a huge lead and proved again that trying to avoid attack ads doesn't pay off, sad but true.

The Conservative party, from polling over 20% a year or two ago has been basically eliminated as a force in BC and the so called 801 group and the right wing of the BC Liberal party who despise Christy Clark and her past federal Liberal associations took a major beating today. Probably means with certainty that Kevin Falcon will never return to provincial politics in BC.

[d_phaneuf]

wow

the NDP has gone down in the % in every region in BC outside metro Vancouver

everyone involved in this campaign should never work in politics again, this should have been a slam dunk, and instead they are losing ground

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Matty81

The right and left wings of BC politics both got battered tonight. NDP... obvious beat down, squandered a huge lead and proved again that trying to avoid attack ads doesn't pay off, sad but true.

The Conservative party, from polling over 20% a year or two ago has been basically eliminated as a force in BC and the so called 801 group and the right wing of the BC Liberal party who despise Christy Clark and her past federal Liberal associations took a major beating today. Probably means with certainty that Kevin Falcon will never return to provincial politics in BC.

I always thought the BC Liberals were the equivalent of the Alberta PC party.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I always thought the BC Liberals were the equivalent of the Alberta PC party.

not quite

under Campbell they were closer to the conservatives, now with Clarke they are probably closer to a centrist or slightly centre-right party and closer to the Federal Liberals

[Minnie]

Did Clarke keep her seat?

She's always reminded me of the woman who does the Lisa Simpson voice.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Did Clarke keep her seat?

She's always reminded me of the woman who does the Lisa Simpson voice.

20 polls left to report and she's down by 300

looks like she will lose it

[d_phaneuf]

Dix concession speech now

[evman150]

Big victory for negative campaigns today.

Not upset by that at all. Positive, sappy campaigns kind of make me want to puke. I love a good attack ad.

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

not quite

under Campbell they were closer to the conservatives, now with Clarke they are probably closer to a centrist or slightly centre-right party and closer to the Federal Liberals

So they are to the right of the Alberta PCs then?

I'd consider the BC Liberals to be a coalition of Federal Conservatives and Liberals. Luckily the BC Cons were unable to gain any meaningful levels of support and the vast majority of right wing votes went to the Liberals.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Zarley

So they are to the right of the Alberta PCs then?

I'd consider the BC Liberals to be a coalition of Federal Conservatives and Liberals. Luckily the BC Cons were unable to gain any meaningful levels of support and the vast majority of right wing votes went to the Liberals.

I thought the Alberta PC's were a bit more like Campbells Liberals than Clarke's

maybe not though

[Zarley]

Dix needs to stand still when he's making a speech. Why does he keep swaying side to side?

I wouldn't vote for the guy based on that alone.