Huh? The argument is that if the whole point was to maximize profits the NHL would be fixing way more one series. If they wanted more money coming in do you think the Canucks are gone in 4 games?
Plus they definitely would have made some calls against Boston if it meant the Leafs and Rangers would meet next.
Huh? The argument is that if the whole point was to maximize profits the NHL would be fixing way more one series. If they wanted more money coming in do you think the Canucks are gone in 4 games?
There could be many reasons, such as they didn't want to rig too much just to stay under radar, or that they wanted to help certain market (Rangers) and didn't care much about Canucks. NBA is all but proven to be rigging series and they have sweeps and 5-games series too. Same with KHL and its preceder RSL (which was fixing games machine). Just because some series are 4-5 games, doesn't mean that ALL series are clean. It is false assumption. That said, I'm not implying that Game 6 was rigged, just arguing with this particular agrument.
Again a russian translation so its tough to know exactly how and what was said.
I know it would be frustrating when the Caps were called on everything while the Rangers were the least penalized team throughout round 1 and going to 7 games. Even the commentators on numerous occasions throughout the series would make reference to the caps being called on something and the rangers would do the same with no call.
That said, if he is serious about his remarks, he does need to be fined. If it was a reporter taking bits and pieces of a lengthy interview and making it sound as if Ovi said it all at once then the reporter needs to be fined.
Again a russian translation so its tough to know exactly how and what was said.
I found the original, however, in two different russian sources they twist his words differently. He put it all very carefully (almost Feaster-like), he said that he's NOT implying that the game was fixed, but 7 games series, in general, are more profitable for the league. Next sentence he said that officiating was one-sided and how can one team have no penalties in a playoff match? He also went on to bring up other reasons, such as poor execution by Capitals, his own sub-par play, said, that he was playing with injury, but it's no excuse.
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How is the NBA all but proven to be rigging series?
The NBA is the closest professional sports has come to WWE right down to very suspicious draft lotteries. You only have to google "NBA rigged" and all sorts of articles pop up. How legit are they? It's debateable but where there's smoke theirs fire and under David Stern there's been constant accusations by executives, media, officials and fans that there has been rigging in the NBA.
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How is the NBA all but proven to be rigging series?
I'm not going to go into it, as it's off-topic, if it makes you happier, replace NBA with RSL. RSL was very well-known for fixing games and they still had sweeps.
I found the original, however, in two different russian sources they twist his words differently. He put it all very carefully (almost Feaster-like), he said that he's NOT implying that the game was fixed, but 7 games series, in general, are more profitable for the league. Next sentence he said that officiating was one-sided and how can one team have no penalties in a playoff match? He also went on to bring up other reasons, such as poor execution by Capitals, his own sub-par play, said, that he was playing with injury, but it's no excuse.
Thank you, this is what I was referring too. Based on what you just said it sounds like the media is trying to run with very little.
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I get the feeling that if he could, AO would go back to Russia and just play in the KHL.
At some point I wonder if he tries that move.. would the KHL break their agreement with the NHL for a player of his profile? Can they? Is there an international legal ramification for this?
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I think the concern is that IIHF might not let guys in to the Olympics that do something like that.
Oh, the KHL would break their agreement with the NHL in a heartbeat to get a guy like Ovechkin or Kovalchuk to return home. But as moon notes, it would result in a major war at the IIHF level, because you can guarantee that the NHL is going to insist the federation suspend said player from international competition.
How is the NBA all but proven to be rigging series?
NBA has fixed series for years. Tim D (referee) is in jail for fixing the Lakers-Kings Conference finals. He and his crew came out and said they fixed that series. He got jail time for it.
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The NBA, for as much as I'd love to truly believe it, cannot fix games. What they do, consistently, is manipulate the games. The refs can call all the fouls they want, its up to the shooting team to make the free throws. The NBA also employs the star system, giving an unneccessary amount of calls (some legit, most not) to stars, as well as David Stern's infamous proclamation that his dream Finals was "The Lakers versus the Lakers".
Now the draft lottery itself is fairly rigged, and hopefully Stern's follwer Adam Silver rigs the lottery so the Raptors can get Andrew Wiggins.
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I'm not going to go into it, as it's off-topic, if it makes you happier, replace NBA with RSL. RSL was very well-known for fixing games and they still had sweeps.
So we are comparing the NBA and NHL to a league that was around for less than a decade?
If this wasn't about seeing longer series as a whole and more about the Rangers advancing why put them down 2-0 and 3-2 in the series? Was the NHL really going to roll the dice on a game 7 if they wanted the Rangers to advance? All it takes is one hot goalie and a bounce or two and even the worst called game could go the other way.
I believe the only people saying games are fixed, NBA or whatever sport, are doing it because they personally felt the lose of a team, not because there is any real evidence. And as long as humans are reffing games you will always have conspiracy this, conspiracy that. Media in North American sports has too much access, this ain't Russia.
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
NBA has fixed series for years. Tim D (referee) is in jail for fixing the Lakers-Kings Conference finals. He and his crew came out and said they fixed that series. He got jail time for it.
Huh? How is Tim Donaghy having a gambling problem the same as the NBA fixing games?
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Huh? How is Tim Donaghy having a gambling problem the same as the NBA fixing games?
Because when gamblers have a guy like him by the balls, which they did, how do you think they get their money back? "Hey Tim, make a few calls, make sure we get a cover, or your legs are ours". That would be how. Plus Game 6, 2002 Western Conference Finals, the undispituted masterpiece of referee manipulation.
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The NBA is the closest professional sports has come to WWE right down to very suspicious draft lotteries. You only have to google "NBA rigged" and all sorts of articles pop up. How legit are they? It's debateable but where there's smoke theirs fire and under David Stern there's been constant accusations by executives, media, officials and fans that there has been rigging in the NBA.
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NBA has fixed series for years. Tim D (referee) is in jail for fixing the Lakers-Kings Conference finals. He and his crew came out and said they fixed that series. He got jail time for it.
Huge difference between shady refs, poor reffing, stars getting calls and possible (with 0 evidence) draft rigging and a league actively rigging play-off series.
I think the NBA is as garbage as it gets with giving teams and players (KoMe) calls but I would say there is about 0% chance that they have rigged play-off series and had nothing come out of it.
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I'm not going to go into it, as it's off-topic, if it makes you happier, replace NBA with RSL. RSL was very well-known for fixing games and they still had sweeps.
Huge difference between the NHL and RSL.
And as you mention the RSL is well known for it, the NHL has had 0 reports and 0 evidence of it happening ever. Odd that they would rig a series now that results in one of its biggest stars getting ousted when they could have rigged other series that would have brought them much more money.
