Flames 2013 Draft Discussion - Page 193 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

SuperMatt18 · 05-13-2013, 02:38 PM

I am cheering for the Leafs tonight just because I will be in Toronto from the 23rd until the 2nd and that atmosphere will be crazy to be around.

Flames Draft Watcher · 05-13-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

That's exactly what I just said.

You said the STL pick was 23rd at worst but it's already guaranteed to be 22nd at worst.

BACKCHECK!!! · 05-13-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

I am.

You are the most contrary Internet poster I've ever encountered.

Seriously, we need to get you a custom user title or something.

Yoho · 05-13-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

I am.

I didn't think you actually cheered for anyone? Hmm.

moon · 05-13-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

You are the most contrary Internet poster I've ever encountered.

Seriously, we need to get you a custom user title or something.

Not sure what that has to do with what I posted.

I have been a Dion fan since he was drafted and that didn't change with the trade to the Leafs. I would cheer for him if everyone here loved him or hated him.

kyuss275 · 05-13-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoho

Yes it is, and no one is cheering for Dion by the way

I still like Dion. Don't think he is a top pairing D man, but like his style of play. Keenan and Toronto making him Captain after 2 weeks upon his arival screwed what ever chance he had at being a solid #2 d-man.

I also like the way this Toronto team has been constructed. Like the way they play and they are young.

Roof-Daddy · 05-13-2013, 03:03 PM

I know it can be complicated, but I'll try to make it simple below:

FACT -> Blues pick right now is guaranteed to be 22nd at worst.

If Ottawa makes Round 3 - Blues pick moves up one spot
If Detroit makes Round 3 - Blues pick moves up one spot
If ONE OF Toronto or NY Rangers make Round 3 - Blues pick moves up one spot (BOTH of these team CANNOT make it to Round 3, has to be one or the other)

The Toronto/NY Rangers scenario is why some of us want to see them both win their game 7's tonight, because they would then face each other in Round #2 and one of them would have to make it to round #3 which would then guarantee the Blues pick would move up one more spot to 21st overall.

So, best case scenario all of Detroit, Ottawa, NY Rangers/Toronto make round 3, then Blues pick can moves up to 19th, and in that case (ALL of the above happening) The Penguins pick would have to also be 25th overall, because Penguins would have to lose out in round 2 for above to happen, as would Chicago.

So the end of the first round would look like this:

30th -> Cup Winner (Either Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto/NY Rangers, Los Angeles/San Jose)
29th -> Cup Finalist (Either Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto/NY Rangers, Los Angeles/San Jose)
28th -> Conference Final Loser #1 (Either Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto/NY Rangers, Los Angeles/San Jose)
27th -> Conference Final Loser #2 (Either Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto/NY Rangers, Los Angeles/San Jose)
26th -> Chicago
25th -> Pittsburgh (Flames)
......
19th -> Blues (Flames)

Clear as mud.

saillias · 05-13-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

I am.

So am I, I feel bad for Leaf fans, that team has been awful for 8 years and the fans deserve some success. There's not really a rivalry here, and the fans aren't nearly as arrogant or whiny as Nuck or Hab fans. There's just a lot of them and they get more media coverage.

mdubz · 05-13-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Not sure what that has to do with what I posted.

I have been a Dion fan since he was drafted and that didn't change with the trade to the Leafs. I would cheer for him if everyone here loved him or hated him.

You hate on the inconsistencies of Flames players but are a big fan of Dion?

You Need a Thneed · 05-13-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

You said the STL pick was 23rd at worst but it's already guaranteed to be 22nd at worst.

Up until that point in the logic, the Flames were 23rd at worst. The logic then went on to explain why 23rd was not possible.

moon · 05-13-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mdubz

You hate on the inconsistencies of Flames players but are a big fan of Dion?

Sure

mdubz · 05-13-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Sure

That's all you've got?

moon · 05-13-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mdubz

That's all you've got?

In a thread titled Flames Draft Discussion not sure there really needs to be a discussion of why I like Dion Phaneuf. Especially when it starts with a garbage post from you about "hate on all the Flames inconsistencies."

As always with OT things if you are really interested feel free to shoot me a PM and I will gladly discuss it further.

devo22 · 05-13-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

Depending on the results of tomorrow's games, the pick will either move up another spot (if both the Rangers and Leafs win); or it will guarantee that the pick can't go any higher than 20th (if both the Caps and Bruins win); or it will clarify nothing (if one home team wins and one road team wins tomorrow).

I don't want to jinx it, but the Leafs are up 4-2 with just 7 minutes left and the Rangers are up 3-0 midway through the 2nd period. Seems like there's a good chance that the pick moves up to 21st tonight

Pierre "Monster" McGuire · 05-13-2013, 07:22 PM

Thanks for that post Roof Daddy! Great information for a dummy like me haha.

My dream draft:

- Barkov (if Tampa drafts Nichushkin and Barkov falls to us). If not, I will be very happy with Monahan or Lindholm.
- Joshua Morrissey or Max Domi
- Ryan Hartman

PeteMoss · 05-13-2013, 07:25 PM

Wow.. craziness in the OHL finals tonight. Game 7... Bo Horvat scores with 0.1 seconds left. Goal counted after a long review.

devo22 · 05-13-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by devo22

I don't want to jinx it, but the Leafs are up 4-2 with just 7 minutes left and the Rangers are up 3-0 midway through the 2nd period. Seems like there's a good chance that the pick moves up to 21st tonight

sorry for jinxing it

Roof-Daddy · 05-13-2013, 08:37 PM

Well, the Blues pick remains at worst 22nd overall, and if:

Rangers beat Bruins, Blues pick improves one spot.
Senators beat Penguins, Blues pick improves one spot.
Wings beat Hawks, Blues pick improves one spot.

Still a chance at 19th overall.

getbak · 05-13-2013, 08:37 PM

The results tonight help make the St Louis pick easier to figure out:

Chicago - Detroit
LA - San Jose
Pittsburgh - Ottawa
Boston - New York

For every series won by a team in green, the Blues' pick moves up one spot. For every series won by a team in red, the Blues pick doesn't move.

The pick can still go as high as 19th, and it can't go any lower than 22nd.

nik- · 05-13-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

The results tonight help make the St Louis pick easier to figure out:

Chicago - Detroit
LA - San Jose
Pittsburgh - Ottawa
Boston - New York

For every series won by a team in green, the Blues' pick moves up one spot. For every series won by a team in red, the Blues pick doesn't move.

The pick can still go as high as 19th, and it can't go any lower than 22nd.

Isn't it now 21 with the Caps out?