Two teenagers girls who went missing in 2003 and 2004 found alive

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Martin Flask, director of public safety

Some appointed suit, not the Operations Manager of the 911 call centre.

He's just responding to public outcry, because the public is dumb and doesn't understand procedure.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by valo403

"some concerns which will be the focus of our review"

Doesn't sound like "that was wrong" to me.

Either way, the whole immediate reaction being to find something, anything, with which to attack someone here, besides the perpetrators, is despicable.

You mean the way you always resort to childish insults and attack posters? Yeah it is despicable.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

You mean the way you always resort to childish insults and attack posters? Yeah it is despicable.

I save it for cases like this, where despite their being actual horrible criminals at which you can direct your criticism you decide that you should take completely uneducated shots at people who are just doing their jobs.

Way to aim for the real problems out there puckluck, you beacon of virtue.

Btw, still waiting for your 911 operators manual.

[darklord700]

Has it been reported what contraption the brothers installed in the house, in the basement most likely, to keep two people from escaping?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by darklord700

Has it been reported what contraption the brothers installed in the house, in the basement most likely, to keep two people from escaping?

About an hour ago I looked at the top of Google's news page and there was a headline indicating the use of chains and ropes (I think it said ropes). I didn't click to read though, so take that for what it's worth.

[Old Yeller]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

The call is being reviewed so you're obviously just mad because I was right and you were wrong.

Reviewing processes/procedures in a high profile case hardly qualify your opinion on the matter as "right".

I doubt a city like Cleveland has endless resources to throw at every caller into the 911 system... it's like you almost need training to handle the calls and process them correctly.

But hey, I'm no expert.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Old Yeller

Reviewing processes/procedures in a high profile case hardly qualify your opinion on the matter as "right".

I doubt a city like Cleveland has endless resources to throw at every caller into the 911 system... it's like you almost need training to handle the calls and process them correctly.

But hey, I'm no expert.

Don't feel bad.

If you were a professional who operates a large-volume emergency in-bound call centre he'd just ignore you.

[Thor]

How long til the movie comes out, already probably casted Luiz

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by Thor

How long til the movie comes out, already probably casted Luiz

Hollywood is not doubt contemplating a movie out of this. Hopefully, the victims will benefit from the proceed.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by darklord700

Hollywood is not doubt contemplating a movie out of this. Hopefully, the victims will benefit from the proceed.

If by Hollywood you mean a Lifetime made for TV movie, sure they are. I wouldn't expect to see some sort of major production about this though, we haven't seen anything about other similar cases. It doesn't strike me as something people would really want to sit through. Two hours of horrific experiences that are based in reality? No thanks.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by valo403

If by Hollywood you mean a Lifetime made for TV movie, sure they are. I wouldn't expect to see some sort of major production about this though, we haven't seen anything about other similar cases. It doesn't strike me as something people would really want to sit through. Two hours of horrific experiences that are based in reality? No thanks.

Shindler's List, The Pianist.......

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Shindler's List, The Pianist.......

Jaws

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yasa

Jaws

Joe Dirt

[Resolute 14]

Among the pictures posted to various stories was someone's hand written sign: "Praise God, Amanda's Free".

It struck me as being particularly absurd since I was left wondering if God also deserves praise for allowing several young women to be held prisoner, beaten and raped for a decade.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Among the pictures posted to various stories was someone's hand written sign: "Praise God, Amanda's Free".

It struck me as being particularly absurd since I was left wondering if God also deserves praise for allowing several young women to be held prisoner, beaten and raped for a decade.

He was busy. You try running a universe!

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Among the pictures posted to various stories was someone's hand written sign: "Praise God, Amanda's Free".

It struck me as being particularly absurd since I was left wondering if God also deserves praise for allowing several young women to be held prisoner, beaten and raped for a decade.

Are you criticizing the way he does his job? Are you an authority on running the universe? Unless you've worked in heaven, you don't know what you're talking about. Do you know if he has the resources to react to every situation immediately? I'd like to hear your expert protocol on how to handle situations like this.

[Resolute 14]

Fire and brimstone, of course.

The only explanation is that God doesn't watch Nancy Grace. Otherwise he certainly would have known about a missing white woman and smote the men who kidnapped her.

[darklord700]

Has anyone read James Patterson's Kiss The Girls? It has the same plot.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Among the pictures posted to various stories was someone's hand written sign: "Praise God, Amanda's Free".

It struck me as being particularly absurd since I was left wondering if God also deserves praise for allowing several young women to be held prisoner, beaten and raped for a decade.

The way a Christian explained it to me was that Satan was responsible for them being locked up, but God was responsible for setting them free.

[Drake]

Details are emerging of the last decade the girls lived. (Note, the fourth kidnapping charge is for the child).

Ariel Castro, a 52-year-old former school bus driver, faces three counts of rape and four counts of kidnapping in the case. His brothers Onil, 50, and Pedro, 54, who were arrested with him Monday, won't be charged, prosecutor Victor Perez said.

A law enforcement source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN that the women saw their parents on television at vigils held for them. They knew their families were were looking for them and were very emotional about it, the source said.

But Knight and DeJesus did not flee when Berry did, the source said, describing them as brainwashed and fearful.

The women have told investigators they left the house only twice during their captivity -- and then only to go into the garage, in disguise. When Berry staged a daring escape Monday night with the aid of two neighbors, Charles Ramsey and Angel Cordero, it was the first chance any of the women had had to escape, Tomba said.

City officials said ropes and chains have been found inside the home. Investigators wouldn't discuss reports that the women had been bound during their captivity at Wednesday evening's news conference, but Police Chief Michael McGrath told NBC's "Today" that "We have confirmation that they were bound."

Castro is scheduled for arraignment Thursday morning. He has waived his rights and is cooperating with investigators, Tomba said. Investigators don't consider him a suspect in any other disappearances, Tomba said.

Also worth noting it was reported that Michelle Knight was forced to give birth by Ariel Castro for Amanda' Berry's baby. If the baby died so did Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry gave birth in a small inflatable swimming pool. They were eventually allowed to live unchained upstairs, behind secured doors.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/ohi...nn-disqus-area