But neighbors and police sources were hinting at a life of horror for the women at the hands of captors for almost 10 years.
Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.
Another neighbor, Israel Lugo, said he heard pounding on some of the doors of Castro's house, which had plastic bags on the windows, in November 2011. Lugo said officers knocked on the front door, but no one answered. "They walked to the side of the house and then left," he said.
Neighbors also said they would sometimes see Ariel Castro walking a little girl to a neighborhood playground. And Cintron said she once saw a little girl looking out of the house's attic window.
Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.
Lugo said about two years ago his sister told him she heard a woman pounding on a window at Castro's home as if she needed help. When his sister looked up, she saw a woman and a baby standing in a window half covered with a wooden plank. His sister told him and Lugo called the police.
Later, Lugo's mother called the police because Ariel Castro would park his school bus in front of their home and bring bags full of McDonald's and drinks into his home. They wondered why he needed so much food. Police again responded but didn't enter the home.
A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.
"I thought something was wrong because I got bad vibes from him," Lugo, 39, a subcontractor, said. "I didn't want to accuse someone falsely."
This past Sunday, Lugo said he saw Ariel Castro at a nearby park with the girl who now officials think is Berry's daughter.
When Lugo asked Castro whose daughter she was, Castro said that she was his girlfriend's daughter.
This is neighborhood racism, no doubt this is one area with high crime and that fact means operators even if they themselves are minorities will treat them with less respect than from a nicer area.
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Should I have bolded it, made key words in a larger font, added some sparkles and maybe a few spinning skull .gifs, and added a java injected script that makes your mouse into Mickey that goes "HOO-HOO" on every click?
I don't think those are union perks...
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I'm not really sure why you guys are looking to crucify normal people when there are perfectly "good" serial rapist abductor scumbags to hate on.
Is this like, some sort of ITG hipsterdom?
"Oh man hating on the guys responsible is so mainstream. I much prefer to focus my derision on 911 operators and the police."
There seem to be a few neighbours saying they called police about strange sightings at the house and others saying police actually came to the residence . . . . . But police seem to be saying they never got a single call about the house.
Post-mortem, that contradiction of views can't be ignored. It has to be cleared up. It will be interesting to see what the truth will be.
I agree it would be tough to be a 911 operator. I was angry when I heard the way that call was handled but I'd concede that would have to be a tough job and its probably easy to second guess without context of what the norm might be.
As always on something distant like this, we are voyeurs, intensely interested in minutiae and overly opinionated. It makes us normal humans.
If you wanna be a jackass then make it more clear.
I don't really want to spend the money on sending you to a Reading Comprehension course. Maybe Chinook College has a freebie one for ESLs? You could pretend to be from Morocco or something.
Charles Ramsey talked to Anderson Cooper tonight. I know people might sick and tired of him but after watching this interview I think he is a quality human being who just happens to be a little crazy.
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The horror these girls/women must have gone through. Incredibly sad. Hopefully they will be able to move forward and live a good life. Luckily it seems like they have great, loving families for support.
After 19 months of refusing to accept that her daughter was dead, Miller was finally forced to face what she believed at the time to be the awful truth.
The grieving mother gave away her daughter's computer and took down her pictures.
'I'm not even buying my baby a Christmas present this year,' she told the paper.
Miller was devastated by what she heard on the nationally syndicated talk show, but said that she believed '98 per cent' in Browne.
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Charles Ramsey talked to Anderson Cooper tonight. I know people might sick and tired of him but after watching this interview I think he is a quality human being who just happens to be a little crazy.
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Sounds like he misheard/misunderstood the 911 operator, which partly propably explains his outrage at them.
In the clip that was posted here the operator clearly asks about the kidnappers outfit (which makes sense since we are talking about a crime suspect that needs to be caught outside his house), but by Ramseys account they were asking about her outfit, which does seem rather trivial at that point.
Charles Ramsey talked to Anderson Cooper tonight. I know people might sick and tired of him but after watching this interview I think he is a quality human being who just happens to be a little crazy.
What a sad comment on our society. A hilarious dude does some heroic stuff, and now, less than 24 hours after we heard of him for the first time, people are bored of him and starting to move on.
Hopefully McDonalds does something good for this guy. He deserves it.
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