Lazar/Morrisey would be a dream for Blues pick (can't see Lazar being around for Pens' pick)
Pens pick: I'd be extremely happy with either of: Morgan Klimchuk, JT Compher, Anthony Mantha (should he slip; consistency issues), Robert Hagg, Adam Erne (both also requiring "slippage" but could happen)
*Craig Button also has Ryan Pulock in the latter part of the 1st round, but can't see that happening.
Also, watch for a kid named Remi Elie (not in the 1st round though). He has slowly moved up draft boards this year. He was given a chance early this year when the Knights had injuries and suspensions, but went back down to the 4th line when players returned. He has moved back up late in the season and the playoffs.
I bet next year he lights up the OHL when some of the players ahead of him on the Knights depth chart move on.
London will probably have 3 first rounders this year but Elie looks like a 6th rounder at best.
In a deep draft with the top 10 heavy in forwards, there will be some high calibre defencemen available later in the round. After a number once centre, a potential top-pairing d-man with size is the top organizational need. I hope we grab a d-man with one of the other firsts - Zadarov, Pulock. Wouldn't be surprised if McCoshen was in Weisbrod's cross-hairs.
In a deep draft with the top 10 heavy in forwards, there will be some high calibre defencemen available later in the round. After a number once centre, a potential top-pairing d-man with size is the top organizational need. I hope we grab a d-man with one of the other firsts - Zadarov, Pulock. Wouldn't be surprised if McCoshen was in Weisbrod's cross-hairs.
I agree with this 100%. Would be great to pick up a defenceman with our St. Louis pick. If Feaster doesn't move one or two of the other 1st round picks to move up in the draft than I see him doing this. Being safe and taking Monahan or Lindholm. then a guy like Pulock or Zadarov. I think the flames drafting will be predictable based on who is available at each of the picks.
Lazar/Morrisey would be a dream for Blues pick (can't see Lazar being around for Pens' pick)
Pens pick: I'd be extremely happy with either of: Morgan Klimchuk, JT Compher, Anthony Mantha (should he slip; consistency issues), Robert Hagg, Adam Erne (both also requiring "slippage" but could happen)
*Craig Button also has Ryan Pulockin the latter part of the 1st round, but can't see that happening.
Package them both & move up to pick Pulock. I have a really good feeling about him.
What's the difference between Petan and Kane (during his draft year). They both put up ridiculous numbers in juniors, Kane was 5'10" 161 lbs when he got drafted and Petan is 5'9" 166lbs.
Can someone shed some light on this? Does it eventually come down to hockey IQ, character? How do you differentiate between players that are similar and have one going #1 and the other ranked around #25?
I wonder if you can get a team to fall in love with Nurse enough that they would be willing to jump in front of the Oilers and than allow the Flames to move up with one of the other picks. Idea being you still get one of Monahan/Lindholm with the first pick, and an oppurtunity to improve your positioning on your next two picks that currently isn't available.
If it is a deep draft, I think you want to get two players who can play top 6/top 4 roles.
To me Nurse seems like a need pick for the Oilers, can you take advantage of having the pick in front of them?
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Thing is, it is a lot easier to discuss the #6 pick than the other two. Depending on the outcome of the playoffs, the STL pick could be anywhere from 20-30 and the Pens pick could be anywhere from 25-30.
Personally, I would be willing to package up one of our two late first round picks to jump up the draft and acquire MacKinnon. The only way I see that happening is if Jones and Drouin go 1 and 2 and then Tampa may be willing to trade down and grab Nurse + someone in the 20s.
Having said that, I am assuming that we pick a C with our first pick. Our other two picks I would really like go toward finding a D and either another C or RW.
I like the looks of Lazar and Morin for those late picks. Mueller also sounds like a big Dman with fast feet.
Stay away from goalies.
Maybe I'm having a brain fart here, but I don't remember the playoff results having to do with the draft order. So if I'm messed up here, how exactly does it work ?
Maybe I'm having a brain fart here, but I don't remember the playoff results having to do with the draft order. So if I'm messed up here, how exactly does it work ?
From wikipedia:
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At the conclusion of the regular season, the 14 NHL teams not qualifying for the playoffs are entered in a weighted lottery to determine the initial draft picks in the first round, seeded according to regular season standing. The 30th-place team has the best chance of winning the lottery while the 29th-place team has a 18.8% chance of winning, with odds diminishing to a 0.5% chance for the 17th-place team. A single selection from the lottery pool is made, with the winning team improving its draft position to the number 1 spot, and no team dropping more than one place.
The remaining order is determined by the Stanley Cup playoff results.[8] Whichever team wins the Stanley Cup is awarded the 30th and last pick, while the runner-up is given the 29th pick. The teams eliminated in the conference finals are awarded the 28th and 27th picks, with the 28th pick going to the team with the better regular season record. Remaining division winners are then sorted by points, then the rest of the field are ranked next, filling in the 26th through 15th picks. In both cases, better records result in later picks.[6]
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Lazar/Morrisey would be a dream for Blues pick (can't see Lazar being around for Pens' pick)
Pens pick: I'd be extremely happy with either of: Morgan Klimchuk, JT Compher, Anthony Mantha (should he slip; consistency issues), Robert Hagg, Adam Erne (both also requiring "slippage" but could happen)
*Craig Button also has Ryan Pulock in the latter part of the 1st round, but can't see that happening.
Lazar might not ever be a top-six guy. He can score but he doesn't create much offense and isn't a playmaker. More of a solid, character guy who will do some little things well and chip in now and then. Not the kind of guy you draft in the top 10.
Also a bit wary of Pulock - he didn't impress at all the few times seeing him live this season. Has a big shot but isn't a refined defender or puck mover. He's matured physically way earlier than most guys which is always a red flag because that advantage will disappear down the road. Actually reminds me of Nick Petrecki. Don't know who that is? Exactly.
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What's the difference between Petan and Kane (during his draft year). They both put up ridiculous numbers in juniors, Kane was 5'10" 161 lbs when he got drafted and Petan is 5'9" 166lbs.
Can someone shed some light on this? Does it eventually come down to hockey IQ, character? How do you differentiate between players that are similar and have one going #1 and the other ranked around #25?
Petan 1.69 PPG
Kane 2.50 PPG
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Package them both & move up to pick Pulock. I have a really good feeling about him.
I dont' think he's worth moving up to get. If he's falls to where they are picking maybe (I wouldn't take him with the Blues pick) but sounds like he has a high bust potential as he's an average defenseman with a big shot.
Lazar might not ever be a top-six guy. He can score but he doesn't create much offense and isn't a playmaker. More of a solid, character guy who will do some little things well and chip in now and then. Not the kind of guy you draft in the top 10.
Also a bit wary of Pulock - he didn't impress at all the few times seeing him live this season. Has a big shot but isn't a refined defender or puck mover. He's matured physically way earlier than most guys which is always a red flag because that advantage will disappear down the road. Actually reminds me of Nick Petrecki. Don't know who that is? Exactly.
Have to disagree about Lazar - I've seen him make some exceptional passes live. There has been times that I wish he'd create just a little more, rather than playing safe, but I do feel that this is the role he's been asked to play at this point in time.
He's not likely to go in top 10 although I could see a team drafting him higher than most predict.
With Lazar, I really think you have to envision the player he can become. When thrust into even a more offensive role next year with the Oil Kings, he could explode.
Pulock is no Nick Petrecki (former Sharks 1st rnder) - and I mean that in a good way - for Pulock...
Have to disagree about Lazar - I've seen him make some exceptional passes live. There has been times that I wish he'd create just a little more, rather than playing safe, but I do feel that this is the role he's been asked to play at this point in time.
He's not likely to go in top 10 although I could see a team drafting him higher than most predict.
With Lazar, I really think you have to envision the player he can become. When thrust into even a more offensive role next year with the Oil Kings, he could explode.
Pulock is no Nick Petrecki (former Sharks 1st rnder) - and I mean that in a good way - for Pulock...
Yeah, Lazars situation is reminiscent of Iginla in junior. The Oil Kings are stocked with a lot of good veteran guys which puts him down the depth chart. I can't imagine too many true 17 year olds have scored 35+ goals in the WHL in the past 10 years.
Logan Couture was once rated as one of the Sharks worst draft picks in their draft preview. Despite never being a great offensive producer he has become a good offensive producer at the NHL level and good two player.
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Yeah, Lazars situation is reminiscent of Iginla in junior. The Oil Kings are stocked with a lot of good veteran guys which puts him down the depth chart. I can't imagine too many true 17 year olds have scored 35+ goals in the WHL in the past 10 years.
Logan Couture was once rated as one of the Sharks worst draft picks in their draft preview. Despite never being a great offensive producer he has become a good offensive producer at the NHL level and good two player.
IMO Domi and Lazar are both worth trading the Penguins pick to move up. If you can come out of the first round with Lindholm/Monahan and Lazar/Domi it sets up to be a pretty good draft to start a rebuilding process and hopefully something like a Carter/Richards or Perry/Getzlaf draft (wishful thinking but at the time I don't know if anyone realized those players would turn out to be so influential).
Bo Horvat scored a beauty goal tonight... He seems to be projected in that 21-30 range. Anybody have a read on how important he is to the Knights success? He is their third rated draft eligible player this year, so needless to say they are stacked.
