Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-03-2013, 05:54 PM   #221
GoIggy
Farm Team Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wittynickname View Post
I really, really hate this claim. When Malkin was at his inarguable best last season, easily the best he's ever played in his career (while flanked by a 40 goal scorer), he still wasn't close to Sid. When Sid returned last season, playing with inferior wingers, at less than 100% he was still better PPG-wise than Malkin, despite the incredible season Malkin was having. And Sid is better defensively, better on faceoffs, more disciplined in general. Malkin is an incredible player, but he's just not at Sid's level, not even at his best.
Look at Neal's numbers without Geno. Geno in 09' cup run was amazing, and he actually plays good defense.

I'm the biggest Sid fan there is, and I'd take Sid 10 times out of 10 because the guy is a freak and every time he touches the ice he's at his absolute best while Malkin can be a headcase at time, but when he's in his "beast mode" he's pretty ridiculous. Both of their "best years" match up pretty well with each other. I would take Sid at his best over Geno, but its not a huge margin.. When you take into consideration that Geno usually isn't at his best it become a wide margin
__________________
CP's Biggest Penguins fan!
GoIggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 05:55 PM   #222
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon View Post
I would like to take this moment to let everyone know that I have Crosby in the CP Playoff Pool.

Thanks for your time.
I hate you. I wasnt even there to profit off of free beer.

Just.....hate. That is all.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 05:55 PM   #223
GoIggy
Farm Team Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
Cooke gets a penalty for what? I feel bad for him, he didn't do anything. Islander player takes off his gloves and Cooke didnt retaliate at all.
Haha, I can't remember if this was you I said it to earlier or not but its CONSTANT Cooke getting BS penalties. I just accept it now, got exhausting getting upset over it lol
__________________
CP's Biggest Penguins fan!
GoIggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 05:58 PM   #224
M*A*S*H 4077
Franchise Player
 
M*A*S*H 4077's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoIggy View Post
Haha, I can't remember if this was you I said it to earlier or not but its CONSTANT Cooke getting BS penalties. I just accept it now, got exhausting getting upset over it lol
Meh, Cooke deserves any random penalties he gets
M*A*S*H 4077 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:00 PM   #225
wittynickname
wittyusertitle
 
wittynickname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoIggy View Post
Look at Neal's numbers without Geno. Geno in 09' cup run was amazing, and he actually plays good defense.

I'm the biggest Sid fan there is, and I'd take Sid 10 times out of 10 because the guy is a freak and every time he touches the ice he's at his absolute best while Malkin can be a headcase at time, but when he's in his "beast mode" he's pretty ridiculous. Both of their "best years" match up pretty well with each other. I would take Sid at his best over Geno, but its not a huge margin.. When you take into consideration that Geno usually isn't at his best it become a wide margin
With regards to Neal--he needs a talented center. Be it Malkin or Brad Richards, he always performs best with a strong playmaking center. Given that he had about 5 periods on Sid's wing, I'm not going to say he wouldn't score well on that wing as well, given time to develop chemistry. I can't say Richards is in the same realm as Malkin, but Neal did just fine with him. Neal is a typical goal-scoring winger, of course he's best with an elite center, opposed to say, Brandon Sutter.

Malkin is close to Sid offensively, and that's about it. Sid is more responsible in every other aspect of the game. Malkin can rarely win a faceoff if his life depended on it. Sid has worked on that until he's a very respectable faceoff man--I have a hard time believing Malkin has even attempted to work on that, given how awful he still is at it. Where they really, really differ is how they play when they're off their game. Sid when not scoring is still winning faceoffs, playing responsibly, still making an effort. When things aren't going well for Geno, he's completely and totally off his game. He takes bad penalties, he can't win faceoffs, he makes bad passes, he looks disinterested.
wittynickname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:03 PM   #226
GoIggy
Farm Team Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077 View Post
Meh, Cooke deserves any random penalties he gets
He really has changed / textbook clean these days since the mandatory shrink time and threats from Shero / Mario, but I can't argue his past obviously
__________________
CP's Biggest Penguins fan!
GoIggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:05 PM   #227
GoIggy
Farm Team Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wittynickname View Post
With regards to Neal--he needs a talented center. Be it Malkin or Brad Richards, he always performs best with a strong playmaking center. Given that he had about 5 periods on Sid's wing, I'm not going to say he wouldn't score well on that wing as well, given time to develop chemistry. I can't say Richards is in the same realm as Malkin, but Neal did just fine with him. Neal is a typical goal-scoring winger, of course he's best with an elite center, opposed to say, Brandon Sutter.

Malkin is close to Sid offensively, and that's about it. Sid is more responsible in every other aspect of the game. Malkin can rarely win a faceoff if his life depended on it. Sid has worked on that until he's a very respectable faceoff man--I have a hard time believing Malkin has even attempted to work on that, given how awful he still is at it. Where they really, really differ is how they play when they're off their game. Sid when not scoring is still winning faceoffs, playing responsibly, still making an effort. When things aren't going well for Geno, he's completely and totally off his game. He takes bad penalties, he can't win faceoffs, he makes bad passes, he looks disinterested.
Geno actually CAN be a good 2-way player, but he always has the bad turnovers. Other than that, yea not much argument from me... Still happy we have both
__________________
CP's Biggest Penguins fan!
GoIggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:11 PM   #228
Captain_Obvious
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Exp:
Default

It's really pretty simple:

When Malkin is at his best, he's on Crosby's level as one of the best in the world.

Problem is, he's not consistently at that level, where as Crosby is.

Thus, while Malkin is an incredible player... Crosby > Malkin for that very simple reason.
Captain_Obvious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #229
Sakari
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Sakari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Exp:
Default

Friggen hell, Iggy, 2 assists on the night. Again.
__________________

"I think it’s safe to say that half the general managers in the National Hockey League would trade their roster for our roster right now" -Kevin Lowe, Edmonton Oilers President of Hockey Ops
Sakari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:15 PM   #230
Captain_Obvious
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Exp:
Default

^ Iggy with 4 points in 4 periods and if I'm not mistaken leads the league in playoff scoring as of this moment.
Captain_Obvious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:17 PM   #231
Igottago
Franchise Player
 
Igottago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Okposo looked like a young Iggy in that fight. Landed some nice shots.
__________________
A few weeks after crashing head-first into the boards (denting his helmet and being unable to move for a little while) following a hit from behind by Bob Errey, the Calgary Flames player explains:

"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
Igottago is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:19 PM   #232
puckluck2
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago View Post
Okposo looked like a young Iggy in that fight. Landed some nice shots.
Lol you mean he looked like a young Iggy because he's black?
puckluck2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:26 PM   #233
moon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
Exp:
Default

Not sure why Iginla gets a penalty and not Streit.

No problem with the Iginla call but why a no call on the crosscheck right before that?
moon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to moon For This Useful Post:
Old 05-03-2013, 06:28 PM   #234
JurassicTunga12
Franchise Player
 
JurassicTunga12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

Martin ties the game

3-3
JurassicTunga12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:28 PM   #235
Machiavelli
Franchise Player
 
Machiavelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:
Default

Wow, tied game...
__________________
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I love power.
Machiavelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:28 PM   #236
Skaloper
First Line Centre
 
Skaloper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BC
Exp:
Default

Nice to see the Isles making it interesting!
Skaloper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:29 PM   #237
expatflame
Formerly FlamesFaninChina
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thailand
Exp:
Default

Go Islanders!
expatflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:29 PM   #238
Brannigans Law
First Line Centre
 
Brannigans Law's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Calgary AB
Exp:
Default

Good for the Islanders. They could lose game 1 by 40 goals it's still 1 game. Squeek out this game and it's home ice for them.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
Brannigans Law is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 06:30 PM   #239
GirlySports
NOT breaking news
 
GirlySports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

that whole sequence showed what's wrong with NHL officiating.

That's a cross-check on Crosby.. probably wasn't called cause the Pens were already on the PP (situational reffing) and then Iginla hits the guy and gets called for boarding (when Streit didn't even hit the boards). Retaliation penalty for a non-foul?

Now the Isles tie the game when really they should have been down 5-on-3.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire

GirlySports is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to GirlySports For This Useful Post:
Old 05-03-2013, 06:30 PM   #240
thymebalm
#1 Goaltender
 
thymebalm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by expatflame View Post
Go Islanders!
No doubt. Watching Iginla lead the playoff scoring race is cute and everything, but give me that 26th pick!
__________________
Death by 4th round picks.
thymebalm is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to thymebalm For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:43 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy