Poll: "Do you believe in the current mgmt group"

[MissTeeks]

Some cryptic tweets from Roger today, I wonder what he knows:

Ryan Pike‏@RyanNPike32m

@RogMillions hope you have a relaxing spring, Rog. I imagine it'll get busy for #Flames folks beginning late June.

Roger Millions‏@RogMillions31m

@RyanNPike I'm betting it gets busy sooner than that. Wink wink nudge nudge....#Flames

Ryan Pike‏@RyanNPike23m

@RogMillions the plot thickens, Rog.

Roger Millions‏@RogMillions24m

@RyanNPike Yes,a plot that could thicken from top to bottom.

[nik-]

Damn you Roger Millions.

[Machiavelli]

Feaster and King getting the boot?

Oh please!

[Roof-Daddy]

I like Roger, but it seems like he tweets "cryptic" stuff all the time, and then not much comes of it.

[SuperMatt18]

I doubt they get the boot at this time, but would not be surprised to see an organizational shake up of sorts.

Still think that King eventually ends up as the CEO of Calgary Flames Sports and Entertainment, overseeing all the groups and specifically the building of the new arena.

Then somebody comes in as President of Hockey operations :cough: Burke :cough:. Feaster and Co. will be retained through the draft but once the team gets off to a slow start next season he is canned. Similar to what happened in Columbus.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Still think that King eventually ends up as the CEO of Calgary Flames Sports and Entertainment, overseeing all the groups and specifically the building of the new arena.

He's already there. http://www.stampeders.com/ken-king

Ken King is president and CEO of the Calgary Flames Limited Partnership.

[kyuss275]

Really did not want to see those tweets from Roger Millions. I am going to be looking every hour to see if there are changes in management, when i know nothing is going to happen.

[atb]

Interesting that with 400 votes 80% of people think there needs to be at least some change at the GM or President position. Wonder if this reflects the feeling of the broader non-CP fan base as well. I was talking to an older relative who is a season ticket holder who attends most home games, gets his news from the Herald, and doesn't really go online for further info or discussion. It was surprising to hear that he thinks both Feaster and King need to go based on the on and off ice product the past 3 years (saying the Dome experience is really dated compared to other arenas) and really hasn't appreciated Feaster's excessive talking to the media which has come across very salesman like.

It was interesting to hear that perspective from someone who hasn't been overwhelmed with the mob mentality that CP can sometimes provide.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by atb

Interesting that with 400 votes 80% of people think there needs to be at least some change at the GM or President position. Wonder if this reflects the feeling of the broader non-CP fan base as well. I was talking to an older relative who is a season ticket holder who attends most home games, gets his news from the Herald, and doesn't really go online for further info or discussion. It was surprising to hear that he thinks both Feaster and King need to go based on the on and off ice product the past 3 years (saying the Dome experience is really dated compared to other arenas) and really hasn't appreciated Feaster's excessive talking to the media which has come across very salesman like.

It was interesting to hear that perspective from someone who hasn't been overwhelmed with the mob mentality that CP can sometimes provide.

Probing another fan base (San Jose, LA) both of them find Feaster to be a joke. They have no idea who KK is.

[Ashasx]

Looks to me like Roger is talking more about trades. He wouldn't be lighthearted if it involved peoples' jobs.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by atb

Interesting that with 400 votes 80% of people think there needs to be at least some change at the GM or President position. Wonder if this reflects the feeling of the broader non-CP fan base as well. I was talking to an older relative who is a season ticket holder who attends most home games, gets his news from the Herald, and doesn't really go online for further info or discussion. It was surprising to hear that he thinks both Feaster and King need to go based on the on and off ice product the past 3 years (saying the Dome experience is really dated compared to other arenas) and really hasn't appreciated Feaster's excessive talking to the media which has come across very salesman like.

It was interesting to hear that perspective from someone who hasn't been overwhelmed with the mob mentality that CP can sometimes provide.

Don't kid yourself. CP isn't 100% accurate but it's a reasonable barometer for the fance of the team. My brother is a season ticket holder and doesn't post here but he wants them both gone. Heck even Oilers fans I socialize with think that King/Feaster are just as bad as Lowe. It's not some sort of secret that these guys haven't done a very good job. Check out the "You be the boss" results from the Sun when they are available and I expect it should somewhat mirror CP.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Looks to me like Roger is talking more about trades. He wouldn't be lighthearted if it involved peoples' jobs.

I agree but really how would he know anything about trades as this point as that stuff is likely months away. Just because the Flames may be open for business doesn't mean the rest of the league is going to be looking to do business with them.

[united]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

but it seems like he tweets "cryptic" stuff all the time, and then not much comes of it.

Hah, exactly. He's vague and seems to be accurate just as often as he is wrong. Like when he made everyone jump when he said the Flames were going to spend $55 million for the 2012-13 season, for example.

In this case, hopefully Roger is bang on!

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Looks to me like Roger is talking more about trades. He wouldn't be lighthearted if it involved peoples' jobs.

Could be, its very cryptic. He might be refering to that the top forward in Iggy, the top D-man in JBO, and the soon to be retirement of top goalie will be gone next year. That's his top to bottom, Forward to Goaltending.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Looks to me like Roger is talking more about trades. He wouldn't be lighthearted if it involved peoples' jobs.

I would guess just the opposite, I would think he is talking directly about top level management positions.

Specifically will the Flames create a new role.... (i.e. will the Flames split Ken King's role)

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Looks to me like Roger is talking more about trades. He wouldn't be lighthearted if it involved peoples' jobs.

I think it depends. If they did a reorganization (for example if King was shuffled to more the business side, and someone was brought in to be President of Hockey Operations), then no one is getting fired, and he might be more inclined to tweet it lightheartedly.

[Enoch Root]

remember when Roger told us that the Flames had an internal budget of $55M?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by atb

Interesting that with 400 votes 80% of people think there needs to be at least some change at the GM or President position. Wonder if this reflects the feeling of the broader non-CP fan base as well. I was talking to an older relative who is a season ticket holder who attends most home games, gets his news from the Herald, and doesn't really go online for further info or discussion. It was surprising to hear that he thinks both Feaster and King need to go based on the on and off ice product the past 3 years (saying the Dome experience is really dated compared to other arenas) and really hasn't appreciated Feaster's excessive talking to the media which has come across very salesman like.

It was interesting to hear that perspective from someone who hasn't been overwhelmed with the mob mentality that CP can sometimes provide.

With all due respect, a large proportion of poll respondents do not have adequate insight, information and/or understanding to make a properly informed decision. Results may reflect opinion, but the opinion is only as good as the understanding of the situation that informs that opinion.

They may form an opinion based on the info available to them, but in more cases than not, I would expect the background knowledge and requisite understanding is in too short supply to make the results credible enough to be actionable.

[moon]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

With all due respect, a large proportion of poll respondents do not have adequate insight, information and/or understanding to make a properly informed decision. Results may reflect opinion, but the opinion is only as good as the understanding of the situation that informs that opinion.

They may form an opinion based on the info available to them, but in more cases than not, I would expect the background knowledge and requisite understanding is in too short supply to make the results credible enough to be actionable.

What background information could be missing that would change opinions?

The thing about running an NHL hockey is that most, if not all, the information is out there to see as the draft, trade and FA are all not only reported by the team but reported and analyzed by multiple media outlets as well.

Throw in how much Feaster likes to run his mouth and make statements it is pretty easy to get an understanding of his thinking and see the horrible moves he has made.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by moon

What background information could be missing that would change opinions?

The thing about running an NHL hockey is that most, if not all, the information is out there to see as the draft, trade and FA are all not only reported by the team but reported and analyzed by multiple media outlets as well.

Throw in how much Feaster likes to run his mouth and make statements it is pretty easy to get an understanding of his thinking and see the horrible moves he has made.

Yeah, if anything Flames fans should have the best idea of what goes on in their GM's head because of how vocal he is in the media. Especially so in cases where moves didn't actually go down (Brad Richards, Ryan Smyth, Ryan O'Reilly, etc.) We know basically the exact contract that was offered to Brad Richards, a free agent who signed with another team - that's a luxury almost every other team's fanbase doesn't get.