Our 6th Overall Pick: Elias Lindholm or Sean Monahan?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don't know enough about either player to make an educated guess. I tend to prefer Monahan because of my Canadian bias and the Toews comparison. Then I hear things about Lindholm being like Forsberg and having a higher offensive ceiling so he sounds awesome. I am comfortable with either player and see positives to getting both.

Take the Forsberg comparison off the table... He had the 102 PIM in the SEL compared to Linholm's 2. Forsberg was not only skilled he was a physical beast and had a mean streak.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Take the Forsberg comparison off the table... He had the 102 PIM in the SEL compared to Linholm's 2. Forsberg was not only skilled he was a physical beast and had a mean streak.

PIM doesn't determine whether a player is physical or not. Try watching him play first.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Take the Forsberg comparison off the table... He had the 102 PIM in the SEL compared to Linholm's 2. Forsberg was not only skilled he was a physical beast and had a mean streak.

He also perfected the art of diving.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Take the Forsberg comparison off the table... He had the 102 PIM in the SEL compared to Linholm's 2. Forsberg was not only skilled he was a physical beast and had a mean streak.

I agree with the notion of taking the Forsberg comparison off the table, because Forsberg was one of the most dominant players of his generation, and the best player in the game for a time.

But you're beating this statistical argument into the ground without qualifying your argument. Correlation does not equal causation. Do you have evidence that Lindholm is not a physical player, other than that 2 PIM stat.

[1stLand]

as long as he doesnt have a history of concussions, pick Lindholm

No more Rico Fatas or Danie Tzachuks please

[tvp2003]

Looking strictly at their names, I'd go with E. Lindholm. The second coming of Eric Lindros mixed with Tomas Holmstrom? Good enough for me.

Besides, a Steve Montador mixed with Brendan Shanahan just doesn't make any sense...

[puds]

Any reason Monahan wasn't on the U18 team?

I really hope Lindholm falls to us his jam and awareness in traffic makes it seem like his game will translate to the NHL really well.

[OzSome]

We haven't had any luck with drafting Swedish player playing in Europe in the past few years so I have to say Monahan. He might be the guy that Calgary is looking for a centre. 6'2" 78 points on 58 games playing for a bad Ottawa 67s team. I see a lot of potential on this guy. He could be our next Doug Gilmour or Joe Nieuwendyk who can play in both offensive and defensive game. Besides I do not want to give Edmonton Oilers a chance to grab the guy if Calgary pass on him.
I know Lindholm have this gifted offensive skills but he plays in Sweden where hitting is not much of a norm. Calgary needed to get bigger so I think Monahan will fit the bill. Too bad we don't have any chance on a much skilled McKinnon but Monahan will do just fine.

[Hair bleach and Vodka]

If it's truly between these two players ...

Monahan all the way! I can't remember where I read it (perhaps another thread here) but someone within the Ottawa 67's organization (again, I think.. real sketchy memory on this) said that he's one of the smartest and best players he's ever had the pleasure of seeing on the ice.

Lindholm could be the next messiah or Monahan could end up being a more coveted asset in the future--who can truly say?

I guess in my limited knowledge I'll go with the Canadian kid. I'm glad to see the scouting reports don't have a glaring "must improve skating".. that would be the only thing keeping me from taking him. (bad memories of past drafts.. lol)

[bluck]

Gotta love how CP is split between the two. I'd have to take Lindholm if it was me.. names like sedin and Forsberg are to good to be comapred to

[Husky]

Unless one of the big 4; Barkov, Jones, Mackinnon or Droin magically drop to the 6th spot the Flames need to go for Monahan. He fits everything we are looking for as a future core player. He might not have the offense to be a top 20 player in the league but he has the leadership, character and 2 way game to make the team better down the road. The Flames have Baerschi, Gaueadrea as the high end skilled offensive guys. What they need is a big body who can play the hard minutes plus still be offensive.

[Murph]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Take the Forsberg comparison off the table... He had the 102 PIM in the SEL compared to Linholm's 2. Forsberg was not only skilled he was a physical beast and had a mean streak.

Not saying I agree with the Forsberg comparisons, but when they originate from the Swedish media (who get to see him play regularly) "taking them off the table" just makes no sense.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Husky

Unless one of the big 4; Barkov, Jones, Mackinnon or Droin magically drop to the 6th spot the Flames need to go for Monahan. He fits everything we are looking for as a future core player. He might not have the offense to be a top 20 player in the league but he has the leadership, character and 2 way game to make the team better down the road. The Flames have Baerschi, Gaueadrea as the high end skilled offensive guys. What they need is a big body who can play the hard minutes plus still be offensive.

Just my opinion...

We lack skill in our pipeline, outside of Sven, Brodie, and Gaudreau. We should handle the tangible aspects before we start to individually rank a player higher even though he's a lesser prospect because of leadership.

[puckedoff]

We should take Monahan because he is just what the Oiler's need in their top 6.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

We should take Monahan because he is just what the Oiler's need in their top 6.

They also need defencemen, so I'm really not worried regarding who the Oilers take. Nothing is going to change with them.

[puds]

I think when people are comparing Forsberg and Lindholm. They notice similarities in the way they can retain possession of the puck in traffic, withstand physical play and their vision. I don't think they are comparing there respective abilities to rack up PIMs.

At the end of the day both Monahan and Lindholm are great prospects. It's likely we end up with one of the two. I'll be happier with Lindholm because his board work/possession game is some of the best I've seen in a prospect and imo has a much higher offensive ceiling that Monahan.

Drafting a 50-60 point, elite, two way center would be great if we already had a number one center. In our case we have to go with the player with more potential.

[Parallex]

I'm good with either one... if I had to pick I'd give it to Lindholm. Seems like the more dynamic player.

[Dime_On_Flames]

I like the offensive upside of Lindholm but the leadership qualities of Monahan. I'd be good with either.

Please Feaster....don't go off the board this time! Pick either of these 2 players if they're available and the fans will be content! Don't mess this up.

[renny]

From all accounts Monohan already has NHL level hockey sense. He's a bit bigger and plays a bit grittier game. I'll take Monohan.

[_Q_]

This is a tough decision. I keep switching between the two. Do we want a potential Forsberg (who was one of my favourite players of all time) or a potential Toews (who is one of my current favourites)?

I'm leaning towards Monahan at the moment, simply because he's Canadian. But then I look at highlights of Lindholm and I get excited about the possibilities.

At the end, I'll be happy with either one of these guys. Although, I'm not 100% convinced we'll have the choice at 6th. I can see one of them picked in the top 5, so the decision might be already made for us. The way I see it is the draft goes as follows:

Colorado - Jones
Florida - MacKinnon
Tampa - Drouin
Nashville - Barkov
Carolina - Lindholm/Monahan/Nichushkin
Calgary - Lindholm/Monahan/Nichushkin

Although, outside of Nashville, I see a lot of teams that need defence and wingers more than centres, so who knows.