Feaster's end of the season press conference at 12 noon

[slybomb]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I think that would be a mistake this draft

Not our first, one of STL or PIT picks +

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I wonder if the fact he thinks (and keeps mentioning) there are 4 "franchise" players in the draft means we will move up..

Depends who the 4 franchise players they think are.

It'd be shocking if Jones, Drouin, and MacKinnon weren't 3 of them, but the 4th isn't necessarily Barkov. Considering Feaster was proclaiming O'Reilly a franchise centremen a couple months ago then it wouldn't surprise me to see Monahan being in the Flames' top 4 instead of Barkov (especially considering he's supposed to have a hockey IQ that's off the charts).

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Igster

So who would trade all three first round picks for a Top 3 pick? Any takers?

Say the Flames were picking top 3, would you trade down three spots for the 6th, the 22nd and the 30th pick?

[Igster]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Garth Snow is that you?

LOL...nope, just curious what the response would be.

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Say the Flames were picking top 3, would you trade down three spots for the 6th, the 22nd and the 30th pick?

Depends on the needs of the franchise I guess. And how quickly they are looking at a rebuild, etc.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

he also has to be medically cleared before being bought out, which I don't think he will be.

I see Sarich as a buyout just because the fit is no longer there.

Good point. When is the compliance buyout period open? Also, what was Tanguay's injury again? Something that can heal before the compliance buyout window closes?

[polak]

I don't see the point of buying any of our players out?
None of them are really underperforming for their contract and we can't field a team of only kids.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I think that would be a mistake this draft

With our own pick I agree but not with the Blues and Pit pick. He's a good young puck moving dman.

[dammage79]

All signs point Barkov. If you can gain anything from comments made from and around the Flames:

1.Barkov
2.Monahan

Tinordi: You speak as though no team has never traded out of their top draft position ever. Like it is incredulous to think there is that possibility. I get your point but it happens and can happen.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Miniac

So which team would trading down?

If Jones is gone before Colorado picks, I think they'd be willing to trade down to #6 to take Nurse.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I don't think its horrible to trade picks for players. Obviously it depends on the player, but picks don't always work out. If you can get a decent player.. why not.

While it is true that 50% of 1st rounders actually become NHLers, part of the reason why it's not good to move them out is because the players you'd be acquiring will cost an arm and a leg already.

With young UFA players like Bozak Weiss and Filppula, you aren't really losing much in terms of production, or in age as I think all of those guys are 27-29. The RFA's and UFA's salary costs are going to likely be in the same ball park (if we're talking about acquiring a similar calibre RFA).

Also, the acquisition costs of a good RFA will cost a ton. Colorado said no to what was expected to be a 10-15 Overall pick and a 3rd in order to keep O'reilly. What are you going to get for the 22nd overall pick? You might get someone that trends to be a quality 2nd liner maybe. What would be the point in that.

Basically think of it as a trade

Outgoing

1st round pick
3-4 million cash

incoming

40-50 point 23-24 year old RFA (any younger and it'll cost more than one of the lower 1sts and still likely would even at the 23-24 year old range)

Vs

Outgoing

5 million cash

Incoming

Tyler Bozak or Stephen Weiss


I personally would rather take the 50-50 change of getting another Backlund/Baertschi/Jankowski/Erixon with the latter two picks and sign the UFA stop gap guy instead of wasting the opportunity to actually get some young players in the organization.

I just don't want to see them spin their wheels for years and years trying to take the quick approach to a rebuild.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Say the Flames were picking top 3, would you trade down three spots for the 6th, the 22nd and the 30th pick?

I wouldn't do it - that's very Edmonton Oilers-esque. Put all your eggs in one basket perennial drafting and you have a bunch of skilled kids with a terrible supporting cast.

We need to use our three picks for additional depth and for a variety of skillsets that contribute to the overall team. And many, many good players comes from outside the Top 10 in the first round.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by gargamel

If Jones is gone before Colorado picks, I think they'd be willing to trade down to #6 to take Nurse.

That is what I think as well

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Igster

So who would trade all three first round picks for a Top 3 pick? Any takers?

I think that might be too steep a price to pay.

I'd definitely deal our pick and one of the other first round picks and maybe a little something more if we could deal up for MacKinnon

CGY 1st + STL 1st + 4th rounder for COL 1st for example

[FlamesAddiction]

I assume that the 4 franchise players Feaster is talking about are Jones, Drouin, MacKinnon and Barkov, but some people would say that without the baggage, Nichushkin falls within that category. I sure hope one of the teams ahead of us thinks so (although that still only puts us in the running for the best of the rest).

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by gargamel

If Jones is gone before Colorado picks, I think they'd be willing to trade down to #6 to take Nurse.

Not sure Sherman would be very cooperative with Feaster, but emotions aside it does look like it could benefit both clubs.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Good point. When is the compliance buyout period open? Also, what was Tanguay's injury again? Something that can heal before the compliance buyout window closes?

all i know is June sometime. and the injury is supposed to be 4-6 weeks for a grade 2 MCL sprain.

That time table has his healthy mid-June, so it will be very close.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Tinordi: You speak as though no team has never traded out of their top draft position ever. Like it is incredulous to think there is that possibility. I get your point but it happens and can happen.

It's pretty rare. The last time a team that had a top 10 draft pick traded down was 5 years ago.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by polak

I don't see the point of buying any of our players out?
None of them are really underperforming for their contract and we can't field a team of only kids.

I think a buyout would be done mostly to get get a little size and grit upfront. With Hudler, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Stajan, Baerstchi, Stempniak, Backlund, and hopefully Horak next year in the top 9, we need size and grit.

Glencross is the only guy we have right now that can fill that roll.

[Caged Great]

4 that I think the Flames are referencing are the obvious 3 and Lindholm. Just basing that off what they said about "that swedish kid" at the last draft.

[Tinordi]

Tinordi: You speak as though no team has never traded out of their top draft position ever. Like it is incredulous to think there is that possibility. I get your point but it happens and can happen.

Show me when a team has traded down from a top 4 position, then show me how well it worked out for them.