Alleged terror plot thwarted by Canadian authorities

[WCW Nitro]

Apparently, the tip to police came from the Muslim community. Good to hear!

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

CTV says they were going to travel from New York to Toronto, and the attack would have taken place on Canadian soil.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rcmp-al...sted-1.1248858

New York Police on CNN said the train was going to New York, not leaving it.

[Daradon]

^^^ Would trust CTV over CNN.

It's shameful how much they've dropped when it comes to reporting news.

[Canuck-Hater]

Yawn. Let's be afraid of terrorist boogey men. Hey just in time for the "anti-terror" legislation our loving government is proposing! Yeah freedom!

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Yawn. Let's be afraid of terrorist boogey men. Hey just in time for the "anti-terror" legislation our loving government is proposing! Yeah freedom!

What the hell are you talking about?

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Yawn. Let's be afraid of terrorist boogey men. Hey just in time for the "anti-terror" legislation our loving government is proposing! Yeah freedom!

What freedoms have you been denied ?

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Yawn. Let's be afraid of terrorist boogey men. Hey just in time for the "anti-terror" legislation our loving government is proposing! Yeah freedom!

Maybe your avatar should be an ostrich.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Mind-bottling. Why would you attack Canada? Which of our foreign policies would these people disagree with?

Probably our blind support of Israel, which is more ideological, and not really politically based (PMO, anyone?). I doubt they'd be interested in us now ignoring the ICC now, but on the World stage our reputation is taking a beating as of late. Numerous complex issues as well, to be sure.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by Hesla

What freedoms have you been denied ?

Some of the new "tough on crime" laws, in addition to the "against child predators" act are some of the more prevalent policies as an example. All based on neo-con ideological principles, and little concrete sociological evidence to back up their effectiveness. That poster is probably referring to the stripping of our rights, as well as the extreme cost to taxpayers to give more money to the security industry. To be fair, there are some other policies that neo-libs push through as well that fail to create results they were intended to.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its also a double down bet for Iran.

If the resistance wins and Al Queda helps seize power they win.

If the standing government keeps power they win.

while they might not be as friendly as they were, they're both still part of the we hate the western powers club and that does make them bedfellows.

I'd have to disagree, the Syria situation is much more complex than "who hates the West". Governments throughout the World are refusing to deal with the brutality there as there are so many varying interests, especially as it pertains to the big 3 (US, China, Russia) powers and their respective allies.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Daradon

^^^ Would trust CTV over CNN.

It's shameful how much they've dropped when it comes to reporting news.

It was someone from NYPD saying it, not CNN, he just happened to be on CNN saying it.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Some of the new "tough on crime" laws, in addition to the "against child predators" act are some of the more prevalent policies as an example. All based on neo-con ideological principles, and little concrete sociological evidence to back up their effectiveness. That poster is probably referring to the stripping of our rights, as well as the extreme cost to taxpayers to give more money to the security industry. To be fair, there are some other policies that neo-libs push through as well that fail to create results they were intended to.

Not sure how they impinge on your freedoms here ? I understand the anger of more tax dollars to pay for bloated bils, but I fail to see how these strip our rights or affect our freedoms.

Maybe I have nothing to hide.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Our support of Israel probably irks these "people".

Not to really pick on this comment, but it is very simplified. Their targeting of Canada has ALL to do with the fact these morons were selected and brainwashed for whatever reason it took. In other words, if Israel did not exist, some other excuse would have been made to attack us.

We represent freedom which is a massive threat to assorted systems around the globe. They will keep figuring out why we are bad and terrorism will continue.

Let's not give these guys credit as if there is a rational reason to bomb a train. Especially when the Arab world has done nothing for the Palestinians.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Hesla

What freedoms have you been denied ?

Every Canadian has a right to privacy, and most of those proposed laws Lip Man mentioned would infringe upon those rights.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by HOOT

It was someone from NYPD saying it, not CNN, he just happened to be on CNN saying it.

Fair enough. Though, the latest I have heard says they haven't released exactly which route it was supposed to be. Some have said Tor-Mtl, some have said Tor-NYC. The police officer could have the wrong information too.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Hesla

Not sure how they impinge on your freedoms here ? I understand the anger of more tax dollars to pay for bloated bils, but I fail to see how these strip our rights or affect our freedoms.

Maybe I have nothing to hide.

Lip Man is correct with his assessment of the new measures proposed in the internet/crime bills. A lot of people aren't happy with them and a active citizenry must always be concerned with their rights to privacy. It's the first thing to go when the government starts getting out of control, and always under the guise of safety.

However, the way Canuck-Hater posted, he didn't really have much to say. If there was something more important to say, maybe he could have been more specific.

I would simply say that I don't think this incident has ANYTHING to do with the government wanting to scare the public. The biggest info came from the Muslim community AND the two individuals arrested have been watched for a few months now. There is no conspiracy here AND actually good news when it comes to Canadian Muslim society, as long as people know all the info. Lastly, they probably felt it important to move in now because of what happened in Boston.

While I agree with the larger idea of the importance of privacy rights and the worrisome nature of some of the recent bills, in this situation Canuck-Hater is just going all conspiracy theory on us without knowing or acknowledging all the details.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Not to really pick on this comment, but it is very simplified. Their targeting of Canada has ALL to do with the fact these morons were selected and brainwashed for whatever reason it took. In other words, if Israel did not exist, some other excuse would have been made to attack us.

Doesn't really work like that. Unfortunately people don't generally need to be brainwashed to do this. Some people just do the stuff that other people fantasize about in their impotent rage over real or imagined slights.

We represent freedom which is a massive threat to assorted systems around the globe.

Oh get over yourselves, you don't represent freedom in any special way.

In fact to a lot of people you ("Americans") represent oppression, violence and injustice. You know, invasion forces, drone bombs and shoveling millions at corrupt warlords and dictators. Which I'm not saying is any more of a "real" picture of Americans as the idea of you "representing freedom", but the point is still that nobody hates you because you represent freedom.

Let's not give these guys credit as if there is a rational reason to bomb a train.

Now this part is pretty much spot on. Terrorists don't generally have much of a reason to be doing what they are doing. Which is the really sad and crazy part.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Not to really pick on this comment, but it is very simplified. Their targeting of Canada has ALL to do with the fact these morons were selected and brainwashed for whatever reason it took. In other words, if Israel did not exist, some other excuse would have been made to attack us.

We represent freedom which is a massive threat to assorted systems around the globe. They will keep figuring out why we are bad and terrorism will continue.

Let's not give these guys credit as if there is a rational reason to bomb a train. Especially when the Arab world has done nothing for the Palestinians.

Didn't really clue in onto this until Itse commented on it but yeah, this is one of the stupidest phrases that gets parroted.

It was first said by Bush and the Bush government and really has nothing to do with anything. Just a way to get 'patriots' behind the flag and the activities of the government including the two wars.

First of all, for all the talk about being free, the US is probably the least free western democracies. Or at least close. Americans can't even travel to Cuba because of a dumb embargo they have that's outlasted it's usefulness and it's point for about 40+ years.

There are real reasons why these people despise America as Itse said, war, drone strikes, political coups and strangleholds on economies. There are also a lot of reasons that aren't real, like supposed hatred of Muslim culture and ideals, that get their own parroting in their own countries by leaders that want to get their people riled up, or use the hatred and fear of the West to stay in power. But no one is bombing the States because the girls wear short skirts or because America is so 'free'. To suggest is so is not only an over simplification, but a total miss of the point.

Yes there is a lot of misinformation on their side about just what the West is about, how they feel, and what they really have and have not done. But people don't sacrifice themselves because they think the other country has bad ideals. Shoot the September 11th 2001 terrorists went to strip clubs. Their not killing themselves because their leaders are spreading all this bad and largely fake press. They are angry because bombs fall from the sky onto their children. Even now they are looking at the uranium content of the munitions America used in Iraq and the spike in children born with deformities.

It's only that type of anger that would really cause a person to die for a cause. (Besides perhaps a mentally unbalanced person)

Now why they would attack Canada, it is the same sort of things, but on a lower scale. But we did go into Afghanistan, we do often back the US, government and thanks to recent moves from the Conservative party, we have made a strong backing of Israel and didn't vote for the Palestinian seat in the UN.

I'm not here to debate policy because some moves I have agreed with and others I have not, and it's a long discussion if we go into that. But they don't try to bomb us because we have happy meals and different values, they bomb us because they feel we infringe on their right to exist and do harm to their country.

[mikey_the_redneck]

1. Attempted terror attack in Canada - plausible

2. Claim attack came from Al-Qaeda in Iran - laughable

When the US/NATO wants to invade country x, just claim that they are harboring Al-Qaeda terorists. Lovely false narrative they're building here.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

1. Attempted terror attack in Canada - plausible

2. Claim attack came from Al-Qaeda in Iran - laughable

When the US/NATO wants to invade country x, just claim that they are harboring Al-Qaeda terorists. Lovely false narrative they're building here.

This patient suffers from a nuerological disorder called conspiracitis

Symptoms to watch out for include adding the prefix word 'false' in front of some nouns.

Eg. false-flag operation