[News] Penguins-Bruins game cancelled

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

What would be the though process around cancelling the game. I assume simply concerned this individual might attempt another mass attack? I would think though it would be likely he'd steer clear of a crowd of that size at this point, given the police presence there and the fact that the whole world knows what he looks like. He'd be identified in seconds if he stepped foot in that arena, he also might be lucky if he made it out alive.

I'm no expert on these things, but this seems a little excessive to cancel, not because the mangnitude of the occurances doesn't warrant it, but because I don't like the idea that idiots like this guy can continue to have a lingering impact on innocent peoples lives. I don't think the risk is really high he'd attack the Bruins game, and the sooner people get back to life as normal, the more it shows these morons that they don't really make a difference in the world with their idiotic antics.

That said, very easy for me to say sitting across the continent, see how i feel if something like that ever happened here.

They've asked people to stay in their homes and they've shut down public transport. Even if there wasn't a concern for general public safety (which there is) there wouldn't be very many people at the game.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont think it has anything to do with the situation in Boston, but more that the league would have to push back the entire playoffs because Boston still had regular season games to make up.

Its a scheduling thing.

Ok, maybe I don't understand. Oh wait, I think I see the confusion. I should have said, what is the point of postponing the game tonight, followed by the rest of my post.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

They've asked people to stay in their homes and they've shut down public transport. Even if there wasn't a concern for general public safety (which there is) there wouldn't be very many people at the game.

Gotcha, ok, so people would have a tough time getting to the game period, so absolutely agree they should cancel.

Still leads me to wonder if asking everyone to stay inside makes sense, but that's another debate and I'm sure it likely does, whether it be a safety thing or if it aids in the Man Hunt somehow.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont think it has anything to do with the situation in Boston, but more that the league would have to push back the entire playoffs because Boston still had regular season games to make up.

Its a scheduling thing.

At this point what does it matter if they have to push back the playoffs by 3-4 days? They have already cancelled 3 months of the season and are going to be behind regular years playoff schedule anyway's.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont know jack about the Celtics or the NBA. I do know that Jacobs is one of the heavy hitters in terms of NHL ownership. Perhaps the same is true of the NBA, I cant make any comparison argument.

Further to the point though, we're already playing a 'circus sideshow' 48 game season and now, two teams that are favourites to win the cup would only play 47? What happens if its a Pens/Bruins ECF? What if one of them wins the cup?

Most people would understand that 1 game wont make any difference, but again you're playing with the integrity of the schedule.

Again I point to the NBA, who faced with the exact same scenario decided to cancel a game with absolutely no push back from anyone. Not even blow hards like Skip Bayless.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

What would be the though process around cancelling the game. I assume simply concerned this individual might attempt another mass attack? I would think though it would be likely he'd steer clear of a crowd of that size at this point, given the police presence there and the fact that the whole world knows what he looks like. He'd be identified in seconds if he stepped foot in that arena, he also might be lucky if he made it out alive.

I'm no expert on these things, but this seems a little excessive to cancel, not because the mangnitude of the occurances doesn't warrant it, but because I don't like the idea that idiots like this guy can continue to have a lingering impact on innocent peoples lives. I don't think the risk is really high he'd attack the Bruins game, and the sooner people get back to life as normal, the more it shows these morons that they don't really make a difference in the world with their idiotic antics.

That said, very easy for me to say sitting across the continent, see how i feel if something like that ever happened here.

The fact that the entire city is locked down while they hunt for a guy who may be wearing a bomb on his chest may have something to do with it.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by valo403

The fact that the entire city is locked down while they hunt for a guy who may be wearing a bomb on his chest may have something to do with it.

Tell me more.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Gotcha, ok, so people would have a tough time getting to the game period, so absolutely agree they should cancel.

Still leads me to wonder if asking everyone to stay inside makes sense, but that's another debate and I'm sure it likely does, whether it be a safety thing or if it aids in the Man Hunt somehow.

If you're a police officer and you're hunting a very dangerous individual, would you rather have the general public (in a city of millions) driving around town & mulling about or would you rather they stay out of the way so that the individual you're hunting has less cover and is easier to spot?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

If you're a police officer and you're hunting a very dangerous individual, would you rather have the general public (in a city of millions) driving around town & mulling about or would you rather they stay out of the way so that the individual you're hunting has less cover and is easier to spot?

Right, by taking everyone else off the street, logically that means the person you are hunting will be the only person on the street. Gotcha, I'm sure that will work well, and not at all encourage the wanted individual to stay in hiding given he likely knows he will be sticking out like a sore thumb if he goes walking around.

I don't know the actual right thing to do, but I seriously question that the paper bag over head logic you presented above is as slam dunk as you think it is. Everyone in the area knows what this DB looks like, he's not going to start wandering around if he's the only guy on the street. If he thinks there is a chance he can blend in, I'd actually think having people out and about might increase the chances he makes a move and makes a mistake, not to mention the whole world knows what he looks like and could help police track him down.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Right, by taking everyone else off the street, logically that means the person you are hunting will be the only person on the street. Gotcha, I'm sure that will work well, and not at all encourage the wanted individual to stay in hiding given he likely knows he will be sticking out like a sore thumb if he goes walking around.

I don't know the actual right thing to do, but I seriously question that the paper bag over head logic you presented above is as slam dunk as you think it is. Everyone in the area knows what this DB looks like, he's not going to start wandering around if he's the only guy on the street. If he thinks there is a chance he can blend in, I'd actually think having people out and about might increase the chances he makes a move and makes a mistake, not to mention the whole world knows what he looks like and could help police track him down.

It's a slam dunk option when they have the guy cordoned off in a certain radius and are searching street-to-street, house-to-house. If he does slip out of the dragnet (or already has) then he is as good as gone so they need people to stay out of the way and stay where they are. The right thing to do? God knows, but it's what they're doing.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Right, by taking everyone else off the street, logically that means the person you are hunting will be the only person on the street. Gotcha, I'm sure that will work well, and not at all encourage the wanted individual to stay in hiding given he likely knows he will be sticking out like a sore thumb if he goes walking around.

I don't know the actual right thing to do, but I seriously question that the paper bag over head logic you presented above is as slam dunk as you think it is. Everyone in the area knows what this DB looks like, he's not going to start wandering around if he's the only guy on the street. If he thinks there is a chance he can blend in, I'd actually think having people out and about might increase the chances he makes a move and makes a mistake, not to mention the whole world knows what he looks like and could help police track him down.

I'm going to go ahead and side with the Boston Police Department, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, CIA and whatever other agency is involved in this over your stance which basically says 'carry on, business as usual, don't worry about the guy who has already detonated bombs among civilians and was last scene wearing what we're pretty sure is suicide vest'. But that's just me.

[FlameZilla]

Oh, and sorry about the ... Didn't mean to be a DB. It's just that it's literally all over the news over here. Thought it would be pretty clear what was going on.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by valo403

I'm going to go ahead and side with the Boston Police Department, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, CIA and whatever other agency is involved in this over your stance which basically says 'carry on, business as usual, don't worry about the guy who has already detonated bombs among civilians and was last scene wearing what we're pretty sure is suicide vest'. But that's just me.

Do you always argue the lowest common denominator or just on this situation? Goverment officials always do whats best, especially down in the States, they've proven that over and over again haven't they?

FlameZilla's point about the search being cornered off was a good one. The point I was making is I hate that loosers like this guy have the ability to have as much impact as they do on innocent peoples lives, and sometimes I think people and governments over react and almost give them more power and their actions more power by scaring and being over cautious. Is the cancelling of a stadium event at this point worth it? I honestly don't know, but given that the attacks were not suicide bombing, and by all accounts after the fact, this person seems to be trying to survive, do they really need to be encouraging people to stop living normal lives? Maybe they do, as FlameZilla said in that area, I don't know. But I just dislike that people are still being scared and stopping doing normal things because of what this loser has done, and I was questioning if the officials in charge needed to be perpetuating that at this point, that is all.

I wasn't in London for the 2005 bombings, but from the reports I saw and talking to family that does live over there, I was amazed at how resiliant the people of that city were and how quickly they tried to get back to "life as normal", I really thought that was a great way to respond to "terror".

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Do you always argue the lowest common denominator or just on this situation? Goverment officials always do whats best, especially down in the States, they've proven that over and over again haven't they?

FlameZilla's point about the search being cornered off was a good one. The point I was making is I hate that loosers like this guy have the ability to have as much impact as they do on innocent peoples lives, and sometimes I think people and governments over react and almost give them more power and their actions more power by scaring and being over cautious. Is the cancelling of a stadium event at this point worth it? I honestly don't know, but given that the attacks were not suicide bombing, and by all accounts after the fact, this person seems to be trying to survive, do they really need to be encouraging people to stop living normal lives? Maybe they do, as FlameZilla said in that area, I don't know. But I just dislike that people are still being scared and stopping doing normal things because of what this loser has done, and I was questioning if the officials in charge needed to be perpetuating that at this point, that is all.

I wasn't in London for the 2005 bombings, but from the reports I saw and talking to family that does live over there, I was amazed at how resiliant the people of that city were and how quickly they tried to get back to "life as normal", I really thought that was a great way to respond to "terror".

I really question how much you've been following this story, if at all. The other suspect was taken after he detonated a suicide vest. It is not at all unreasonable to expect the suspect on the loose to be wearing the same. When cornered last night the suspects discharged grenades and another pressure cooker IED.

Are you seriously suggesting that a city that knows this individual is loose in it should be hosting an event that draws thousands of people to one place, let alone encouraging people to be out and about the city in general? Use some common sense.

[FlameZilla]

It is literally all over the news, TV, Internet, newspaper. It's a WILD situation, like the most intense few hours of a season of 24. I have no doubt that Boston will be as resilient as London was... once the ordeal is actually over.

[fatso]

Is the game on Centre Ice today? Haven't yet been able to identify which channel if it is.

[jschick88]

Originally Posted by fatso

Is the game on Centre Ice today? Haven't yet been able to identify which channel if it is.

I just sent Shaw Help a message on Twitter. Doesn't look like it's on NHLCI.

For this particular game, it would be on the NHL Network (channel 158) http://ow.ly/kfMnr

[jschick88]

FYI.. They just sent me another message Channel 352 for Shaw customers.

The Bruins/Penguins game will be broadcasted on NHLCI ch352 and on NHL Network ch158.

https://twitter.com/Shawhelp

[fatso]

Originally Posted by jschick88

FYI.. They just sent me another message Channel 352 for Shaw customers.

The Bruins/Penguins game will be broadcasted on NHLCI ch352 and on NHL Network ch158.

https://twitter.com/Shawhelp

Ah, thanks for the quick info! Appreciate it!

[bluck]

what about Telus?