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Old 04-19-2013, 08:37 PM   #2221
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Oh and come someone explain to me why the ATF was involved in this? I mean I know everyone and his dog with a law enforcement badge that was based out of Boston wanted in on the manhunt, but why the ATF?

The FBI I'm sure is capable of carrying out an operation like this.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:43 PM   #2222
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Oh and come someone explain to me why the ATF was involved in this? I mean I know everyone and his dog with a law enforcement badge that was based out of Boston wanted in on the manhunt, but why the ATF?

The FBI I'm sure is capable of carrying out an operation like this.
Looks like someone already explained it but FYI, ATF actually stands for Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
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whats is scary to me is that two punks shut down a major city. The LEO's in charge did a damn fine job in a week.

Dude who looks in boat has HUGE balls.
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Oh and come someone explain to me why the ATF was involved in this? I mean I know everyone and his dog with a law enforcement badge that was based out of Boston wanted in on the manhunt, but why the ATF?

The FBI I'm sure is capable of carrying out an operation like this.
The ATF mandate includes prevention of federal offences using illegal firearms and explosives and acts of arson and bombings.

edit: someone beat me to it and I didn't notice.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:52 PM   #2226
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whats is scary to me is that two punks shut down a major city. The LEO's in charge did a damn fine job in a week.

Dude who looks in boat has HUGE balls.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:53 PM   #2227
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I'm searching online and I can't find anything saying these guys were radical muslims or that this was part of any jihad.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:54 PM   #2228
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whats is scary to me is that two punks shut down a major city. The LEO's in charge did a damn fine job in a week.

Dude who looks in boat has HUGE balls.
More like "curiousity killed the cat." She was lucky.

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I'm searching online and I can't find anything saying these guys were radical muslims or that this was part of any jihad.
The older brother was a self-described "very religious" Muslim and frequented jihadist websites. It doesn't seem that the younger brother is a radical, or he hid it well if he is.
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Ah, I didn't know the ATF does explosives as well.

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Old 04-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #2232
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I'm confused with 2 reports, one was infrared from chopper found him and the other was the home owner found him.
He must have been very injured because once the home owner lifts the tarp you would think he takes off.
Also how does one go from that gun battle with 100+ rounds to escaping into a boat?

I blame it on the media trying to create their own stories but do look forward to the official timeline!
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Que the photoshops of this idiot and the boat. Wouldn't the immediate neighbors have been evacuated?
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I'm searching online and I can't find anything saying these guys were radical muslims or that this was part of any jihad.
I'm pretty sure the older brother was investigated in the past because of fears he was an extremist. He also became a devout Muslim starting in 2009.

Of course it's important to look at this as much more complicated that "evil muslims". It needs to be looked at in the context of what caused them to become radicals. Just looking at Islam as the inherent problem and the two brothers as inherently evil won't get anyone anywhere. But that's what has already happened and what will continue to happen.
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I'm confused with 2 reports, one was infrared from chopper found him and the other was the home owner found him.
He must have been very injured because once the home owner lifts the tarp you would think he takes off.
Also how does one go from that gun battle with 100+ rounds to escaping into a boat?

I blame it on the media trying to create their own stories but do look forward to the official timeline!
Sorry that may be my fault as I did make it sound like the helicopter found him. The homeowner found him and called cops. The helicopter using the IR camera knew he was still there and detected the movement (I'm guessing that the reports on the scanners of arms and legs moving were then coming from the helicopter camera).


also I want to say devout muslim does not in any way shape or form equal radical muslim despite the general belief among many. I know several devout muslims and not one radical.

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Sandy Hook, and Chris Dorner, and Columbine, and Oklahoma City, and some white pride lunatic walking into a Sikh Temple and the hundreds of gun related murders.... etc etc etc.... had nothing to do with Islam. 'Murika does just fine at killing itself from within.
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Boston police saying suspect #2 is "severely injured."

hope he pulls through....or has an extended agonizing death.
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Seriously though. What does LEO'S stand for?
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