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Old 04-18-2013, 03:13 PM   #41
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So, what will Ramage be if he becomes an NHLer?

IMO, a smaller, but more mobile version of Cory Sarich.

Physical, defensive Dman.
Also lays out massive highlight reel hits from time to time.
Possesses leadership qualities.
Can move the puck fairly well. (Something I think Sarich is underrated for)
The bigger the game, the more prominent he becomes.
I think he is more like Giordano, but with less offense (though we'll see how he develops)
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:14 PM   #42
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I think his potential is bottom pairing defenseman and future assistant captain.
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So, what will Ramage be if he becomes an NHLer?

IMO, a smaller, but more mobile version of Cory Sarich.

Physical, defensive Dman.
Also lays out massive highlight reel hits from time to time.
Possesses leadership qualities.
Can move the puck fairly well. (Something I think Sarich is underrated for)
The bigger the game, the more prominent he becomes.
Pretty much think a smaller version of his old man.

A reliable decently mobile physical defensemen who will provide bonus offense.

Good leadership skills and a steadying middle pair defensemen at best.

But a good prospect
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:25 PM   #44
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Great news. I think Ramage ends up as a Jamie Macoun. He's not going to be the ferocious fighter Macoun was, but he'll keep guys honest by stepping up and laying some bone crushing checks. He'll also be a guy that steps up and is a big game player. His nickname was Captain America for multiple reasons, but mostly because of his ability to step up and lead when the team needed a big performance. Ramage is a player! The only question is whether he can bring those same qualities to the NHL game? I think he's going to surprise and will be a big leader for this team and wear a letter.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:26 PM   #45
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Ramage's contract doesn't start until next season, so, still 48 for this year.
interesting that it is that way, but why would it be different than Hanowski's? Both graduating seniors, same age.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:32 PM   #46
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I think 49? But could be wrong
Could be wrong but Broissoits and Ramages contracts do not count yet, as does Berra's. They should take effect next season.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:38 PM   #47
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Good signing, Feaster. Strong, physical D are a big organizational need, glad we didn't let one walk for nothing when he's four years into his development.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:39 PM   #48
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I always pictured him as a Bob Boughner type player (since we all are throwing out ex-flame comparables), who was also 6' 200ish
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interesting that it is that way, but why would it be different than Hanowski's? Both graduating seniors, same age.
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Just to confirm: Ramage's 2 year contract starts next season. #Flames
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Why only 2 years and not 3 like most ELC?
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:45 PM   #51
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At 28 contracts so far for next season:

Forwards

1. Mike Cammalleri
2. Jiri Hudler
3. Alex Tanguay
4. Matt Stajan
5. Curtis Glencross
6. Lee Stempniak
7. Sven Baertschi - ELC
8. Ben Hanowski - ELC
9. Max Reinhart - ELC
10. Roman Horak - ELC
11. Tim Jackman
12. Ryan Howse - ELC
13. Michael Ferland - ELC
14. Blair Jones
15. Ben Street - Two-way
16. Turner Elson - ELC
17. David Eddy - ELC

RFA's -> (8) Backlund, Bouma, Nemisz, Cameron, Aliu, Byron, Bancks, Patterson
UFA's -> (6) Cervenka, McGrattan, Begin, Walter, Kolanos, Testwuide

Defensemen

1. Wideman
2. Giordano
3. Sarich
4. Smith
5. Tyler Wotherspoon - ELC
6. James Martin - ELC
7. John Ramage - ELC

RFA's -> (5) Brodie, Butler, Lamb, Breen, Cundari
UFA's -> (2) Babchuk, Carson

Goaltenders

1. Mikka Kiprusoff
2. Joni Ortio - ELC
3. Reto Berra - ELC
4. Laurent Brossoit - ELC

RFA's -> (0) None
UFA's -> (2) Taylor, Irving

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Why only 2 years and not 3 like most ELC?
it's an age thing, the Flames didn't have a choice here.

AGE ........ LENGTH
18-21 ..... 3 years
22-23 ..... 2 years
24 .......... 1 year
25+ ........ No Restriction *

* A one-year entry-level restriction applies to drafted players from Europe aged 25 to 27.

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Now resign Nemisz, Bouma, Byron, Breen, Cundari, Grandlund and the Heat should be a much more skilled team.
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I always pictured him as a Bob Boughner type player (since we all are throwing out ex-flame comparables), who was also 6' 200ish
Bobby wasn't all that mobile.

Ramage might be a bit better at headmanning the puck up the ice too.
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^ assuming they sign 6 of the 8 forwards, and the 5 defensemen, plus Ramo, that puts them at 40. Plus Granlund
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Now resign Nemisz, Bouma, Byron, Breen, Cundari, Grandlund and the Heat should be a much more skilled team.
I'd expect 2-4 of those players to be on the Flames next season. Namely, Breen, Cundari, Byron and Bouma. Those four guys, if healthy, should push for NHL roster spots out of camp next season.
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I'd expect 2-4 of those players to be on the Flames next season. Namely, Breen, Cundari, Byron and Bouma. Those four guys, if healthy, should push for NHL roster spots out of camp next season.
I'm with you on three of the four, but where do you realistically see Byron fitting in on this team? I don't think we can reasonably go into the year with him in the top six, and his size makes a bottom six role challenging at best.
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I'm with you on three of the four, but where do you realistically see Byron fitting in on this team? I don't think we can reasonably go into the year with him in the top six, and his size makes a bottom six role challenging at best.
That's why I hedged my bet with the 2-4 prediction.

He'll be in tough, but IMO he'd be seen in a different light (be on the team for the last two months) had he not broken his hand 2 minutes into his call up.

But yeah, he's going to have to work his butt off, especially if we luck out and snag MacKinnon/Barkov at the draft.
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If I'm not mistaken, Granlund's the only prospect that has to be signed this year. I'm not worried about him getting signed.

Happy they signed Ramage though.
There is still Larson. Though I don't think many consider him a prospect. There is also Ramo, but he is a bit different as well.
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There is still Larson. Though I don't think many consider him a prospect. There is also Ramo, but he is a bit different as well.
Larson? Who?
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