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Old 04-16-2013, 10:12 AM   #401
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RIP 8 year old Martin Richard who lost his life in this needless tragedy.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:12 AM   #402
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I agree that it's disrespectful. But I also agree with the original intent of the post. Hopefully some people see it though and get a little bit of a wake up call.

How many people out there do you think scroll by a headline such as this...

"Bombs explode outside eastern Iraqi mosque, killing 7"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/12/world/...tml?hpt=imi_c2

without even thinking about it?

A wake up call about what? The middle east is dangerous?
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:14 AM   #403
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I agree that it's disrespectful. But I also agree with the original intent of the post. Hopefully some people see it though and get a little bit of a wake up call.

How many people out there do you think scroll by a headline such as this...

"Bombs explode outside eastern Iraqi mosque, killing 7"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/12/world/...tml?hpt=imi_c2

without even thinking about it?
So should we then ignore the story of what happens to your neighbor or the murder in your province? You don't look down on one tragedy to point out there are others to give yourself some sense of moral superiority. That's just ignorant
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:15 AM   #404
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I agree that it's disrespectful. But I also agree with the original intent of the post. Hopefully some people see it though and get a little bit of a wake up call.

How many people out there do you think scroll by a headline such as this...

"Bombs explode outside eastern Iraqi mosque, killing 7"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/12/world/...tml?hpt=imi_c2

without even thinking about it?
They scroll by it because it happens every day. It is the unfortunate reality of life in the midst of a war. It is horrible. It shouldn't have to happen, but it is the reality of that part of the world. On top of that, it is a reality that very few people here have any ability to relate to.

The bottom line is that these are very different things, and the responses should be very different based upon simple human nature. For that ####### to decide that it's time start calling people hypocrites is disgusting. If that was one of my friends they'd not only cease to be my friend, I'd be making my point in a much more obvious manner.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:16 AM   #405
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I agree that it's disrespectful. But I also agree with the original intent of the post. Hopefully some people see it though and get a little bit of a wake up call.

How many people out there do you think scroll by a headline such as this...

"Bombs explode outside eastern Iraqi mosque, killing 7"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/12/world/...tml?hpt=imi_c2

without even thinking about it?
I even scroll by those headlines, and I'm from the Middle East originally. After about 2009, people dying in Iraq just became so ordinary that I don't need to read every single article about it to be reminded about it. If a war breaks out in Gaza for example, I do pay attention because it's not an every day event and I still have ties to that part of the Middle East. If a bombing happened in Qatar for example, I would be just as interested in it as this Boston bombing, because it would be way out of left field and I have tons of family and friends that live there.

This Boston bombing is huge news because Boston is a peaceful city compared to Baghdad.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:17 AM   #406
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Have a look at the newspapers in the Middle East(not the English versions). The Boston event is not top billing, it all depends on where you live, news is still local to a certain extent.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:24 AM   #407
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Good lord. Now every package of chinese takeout is going to viewed as a suspicious package. I'm probably exaggerating, but the level of paranoia is going to reach huge levels in the coming days I think.

I think what's most likely is that "suspicious packages" are found daily in the United States, but the media only report on it now that something tragic has happened. Just adds to the paranoia.
It's particularly bad in Boston right now since thousands of people stashed bags of clothes in the blocks surrounding the finish line with the plan to change after the race before flying/driving home. Each one of those bags instantly became a "suspicious package" that must be dealt with as if it contains explosives. It turns out that the 3rd explosion yesterday was not a bomb, but the police had to detonate it as if it was.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:25 AM   #408
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It's not that we're desensitized to events in the middle east, it's more that we're sensitized to events in our own backyard. Just human nature.
I'm not disagreeing with that or anything else anyone has said about it. I reposted it because it's currently at 29 likes and counting and this is just a normal post by someone who has a normal amount of friends so it's notable.

Should note that most of the people that are liking it, that I recognize, are not Canadian (or American) by birth so that probably has a large role in that number.

Also, most of the discussion in the comments of said post are referring to the inconsistency in the media reporting stuff like this.

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Have a look at the newspapers in the Middle East(not the English versions). The Boston event is not top billing, it all depends on where you live, news is still local to a certain extent.
Well that's because the biggest news right now is a 7.8 magnitude earthquake that hit Iran and was felt in Dubai and Doha (where these news agencies are located). They still have news about the Boston bombing on the front page though on both Aljazeera and Al Arabiya, though.

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relatives in the UK emailed that the Boston tragedy has been lead story on the BBC.
It is not just a North American headline though maybe in the middle east it has not been given much attention. Who can say i know i don't read Arabic so ?
JMO a middle east terrorist group would have been all over claiming responsibility.
Maybe if that initially happened this act of terror would probably have more air time over there i really can't say.

Regardless if it isn't making news over there my concern would be how governments keep their people so cut off from the rest of the world is such a crime.
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Did the guy missing the legs live? Looked so calm.
Yes. His name is Jeffrey Bauman and he survived. This is from the Daily Fail though, but I'll see what else I can find. He's in critical but stable condition.

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According to Reddit, Mr Bauman Jr., the male victim Mr Arredondo is helping in the now-iconic photograph of the bombings, is in critical but stable condition at Boston Medical Center.

The 27-year-old from Chelmsford, Massachusetts, had been watching his girlfriend compete in the race when the devastating blast went off, changing his life forever.

A friend of Mr Bauman Jr.'s updated anxious Reddit users of his condition and another user posted a heartbreaking Facebook message from the victim's father, who was in Concord, NH. at the time of the explosions.

'Can everyone pray for my Son Jeff jr who was at the finish line today in Boston,' Jeff Bauman Sr. wrote late last night. 'He is in surgery right now with injuries to his legs. I just can't explain whats wrong with people today to do this to people. I'm really starting to lose faith in our country.'

At around 9 a.m. today, Mr Bauman Sr., who seemingly learned that his son was injured from seeing the horrific photograph of Mr Arredondo and Jeff, gave another update to concerned friends and family.

'Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers, they did help greatly. Unfortunately my son was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. He had to have both lower limbs removed due to the extensive vascular and bone damage.

'I was with him last night and am heading back down to Boston - Boston Medical Center to be with him today. He went back into surgery last night at midnight for exploratory due to fluid in his abdomen. He came out at 2:30 and doctors informed us he was doing better. Thanks again to all you guys and girls, my friends. I'll keep you informed. Jeff B.'



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Regardless if it isn't making news over there my concern would be how governments keep their people so cut off from the rest of the world is such a crime.
Okay this statement is just backwards.

If anyone is kept sheltered from the events across the world it's Americans. I was arguing with a group of major Republican supporters from California not too long ago and they told me that the media there didn't report any sort of civilian casuality numbers from Iraq or Afgahnastan. They also used to have a ban on reporting on soldiers funerals...

That is messed up.
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Here's a cool pic on CNN today:

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relatives in the UK emailed that the Boston tragedy has been lead story on the BBC.
It is not just a North American headline though maybe in the middle east it has not been given much attention. Who can say i know i don't read Arabic so ?
JMO a middle east terrorist group would have been all over claiming responsibility.
Maybe if that initially happened this act of terror would probably have more air time over there i really can't say.

Regardless if it isn't making news over there my concern would be how governments keep their people so cut off from the rest of the world is such a crime.
It is being reported on the Arabic news outlets. Both Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya have it on the front page, after the earthquake news. Even Al Manar (which is basically Hezbollah's news station) has it as their front page news in their "America's" tab.
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Yes. His name is Jeffrey Bauman and he survived.

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wow what a raw interview that guy is a hero.
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The bottom line is, its a big thing(blowing up the Boston Marathon) and deserves attention. Its on a smaller scale but would be similar to a terrorist incident at the world cup or olympics, because it happened at a sports event even Sportsnet and TSN reported on it. So its a news event and a sports event.
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Here's a cool pic on CNN today:

That's a cool picture, thanks for sharing.

It's funny though how CNN's idea of "the world reacts" is to show 14 pictures from the US, 1 picture from Canada and one (probably unrelated) picture from Paris.

Yeah CNN, the world is mostly America.
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That's a cool picture, thanks for sharing.

It's funny though how CNN's idea of "the world reacts" is to show 14 pictures from the US, 1 picture from Canada and one (probably unrelated) picture from Paris.

Yeah CNN, the world is mostly America.
Well are there pictures of reactions in the Middle East or other places? They've got a few of their own things going on, so while news outlets over there will obviously report it I'd be surprised if there has been much in the way of a notable public reaction. I'm sure we'll see more reactions from Europe and Asia over time.
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Post I saw on FB, that got a ton of likes...

"Boston becomes the new Baghdad and suddenly everyone's talking about it like they care. Syria is in a civil war with hundreds dying every day, the Americans killed six children in an airstrike last week and none of you said ####. You're either hypocritical or don't have a ####ing clue about what goes on in the world."
What's the posters point besides being an internet ######baag. I think everyone is pretty much aware of the tragedy in Syria, it was getting massive coverage and has faded away probably from news fatigue. Is he expecting it to be on the front page everyday? For America to get involved? I don't understand his point. This could be considered a major terrorist event at a major sporting event in a U.S. city in a country that doesn't see events that often. Of course its going to call attention. Combine this with the fact that it was incredibly brutal.



[QUOTE=polak;4204366It is true that some people are clueless when it comes to the fact that these types of events are happening all the time elsewhere but I mean, what do you expect? Obviously it's going to hit closer to home when it happens on this side of the planet.[/QUOTE]

True, with things like Syria and Afghanistan there is a desensitivity factor because we hear about casualties and see brutal images nearly every day. Eventually it becomes a NIMBY numbness
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