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Old 04-15-2013, 10:42 AM   #81
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I do 3 things, 1: I purposefully wont let anyone merge in there is a constructions zone with adequate warning as to when the lane ends. Then I am bumper to bumper with the car in front to ensure no one gets in.

2: If I see someone texting I will honk my horn to wake them up.

3: I do call the police if I think someone is impaired, I take down their plates and a picture of the plates.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:51 AM   #83
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Squirming, backtracking? Not really. Don't care.

Just stating the frequency and details to the fun police.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:01 PM   #84
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I do 3 things, 1: I purposefully wont let anyone merge in there is a constructions zone with adequate warning as to when the lane ends. Then I am bumper to bumper with the car in front to ensure no one gets in.

2: If I see someone texting I will honk my horn to wake them up.

3: I do call the police if I think someone is impaired, I take down their plates and a picture of the plates.

This remind me, when someone doesn't let me in I force my way in. I actually drove over the curb and onto the grass once just to merge in front of a guy that wouldn't let me in.


And is it really vigalante justice if you call the police? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose?
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:07 PM   #85
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This remind me, when someone doesn't let me in I force my way in. I actually drove over the curb and onto the grass once just to merge in front of a guy that wouldn't let me in.
Best of luck with that... I used to do this in Vancouver. When entering Stanley Park from the downtown side to go over the Lion's Gate bridge, which goes into West Vancouver, there is a lane that you take if you want to exit to visit the park. That area can get incredibly backed up, and inevitably you'd have people driving right to the end of the exit lane for the park, past hundreds of cars, and trying to merge. I would never let those people in, no matter what they did, and experienced untold glee whenever the police camped out there to ticket the line-jumpers. I'm totally with mykalberta on this one.

Of course, the opposite is people who stubbornly refuse to take turns merging where it's clearly appropriate. But that just goes in the GMG thread.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:22 PM   #86
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I do 3 things, 1: I purposefully wont let anyone merge in there is a constructions zone with adequate warning as to when the lane ends. Then I am bumper to bumper with the car in front to ensure no one gets in.

2: If I see someone texting I will honk my horn to wake them up.

3: I do call the police if I think someone is impaired, I take down their plates and a picture of the plates.
I also do #2 and #3.

I am the inverse of you for #1 though. I ride the entire way up every time the lane is ending. I do so for two reasons:

1) it gets me farther ahead than I was; and
2) it is the proper way to ensure that the lanes are used optimally. It is the people who stop short of using the entire lane that cause the slow-downs in traffic. Over the years, I've had plenty of people try to block me out. I just move over anyways. This invariably leads them to honk and give me the finger, as though I am the one breaking traffic laws. I find it amusing actually.
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Yeah people don't get that going to the end of the lane is the proper thing to do. It helps with traffic and it also increases the likelyhood that you find a gap where you can fit in without impeding anyone.
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Yeah people don't get that going to the end of the lane is the proper thing to do. It helps with traffic and it also increases the likelyhood that you find a gap where you can fit in without impeding anyone.
Except in reality what happens is most people merge as soon as a dashed line appears regardless of traffic conditions.

South bound Deerfoot before Southland is awful for this. The merge lane is way, way too long. People will leave the third lane for the merge and bone their way ahead in line. If you are in the third lane you'll inevitably let in 3 or 4 cars.
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Except in reality what happens is most people merge as soon as a dashed line appears regardless of traffic conditions.

South bound Deerfoot before Southland is awful for this. The merge lane is way, way too long. People will leave the third lane for the merge and bone their way ahead in line. If you are in the third lane you'll inevitably let in 3 or 4 cars.
Not this cowboy. I have a one car rule - I let one guy in and that's it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:39 PM   #90
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^^^ Exactly I don't always go to the end of the lane, but it is the optimal way to use the lanes and keep traffic moving, in principle. This is even more true if you're talking about something like a lane closed for construction or an accident. What possible traffic or safety benefit is there to having several hundred feet of empty lane?
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What possible traffic or safety benefit is there to having several hundred feet of empty lane?
The lane is that long to allow you time to make slight adjustments to your speed without having to make others have to stop. The problem is as soon as one guy goes to the end and makes somebody have to hit their brakes; that causes a chain reaction and normally causes a bottleneck. At that point it is better to go to the end in theory; however I don't like to be part of the problem.

One thing I learned in a defensive driving course- try to change lanes without anybody else having to touch their brakes. That is the halmark of a successful lane change.
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Yeah people don't get that going to the end of the lane is the proper thing to do. It helps with traffic and it also increases the likelyhood that you find a gap where you can fit in without impeding anyone.
Usually when I am at the back of a long line of mergers I will see a strange occurrence, everyone in front of me will merge at once, as tho you are supposed to merge at a specific time rather than point in space. I still see solid white line to my left so I get to drive up another 2-400m of open merge lane.
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I also do #2 and #3.

I am the inverse of you for #1 though. I ride the entire way up every time the lane is ending. I do so for two reasons:

1) it gets me farther ahead than I was; and
2) it is the proper way to ensure that the lanes are used optimally. It is the people who stop short of using the entire lane that cause the slow-downs in traffic. Over the years, I've had plenty of people try to block me out. I just move over anyways. This invariably leads them to honk and give me the finger, as though I am the one breaking traffic laws. I find it amusing actually.
The slow downs don't come from not using the other lane, they come from the starting and stopping for letting people in. It's a phenomenon called bottlenecking. If everyone just got in the correct lane once they saw the lane is ending, the lane would run much smoother.

According to Alberta law, a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely.

If there is a car in that lane, and you are trying to wedge yourself in, that is not safe, and yes you are breaking a traffic law. Unless there is a merge, you don't have the right to that lane. You also are being a dbag. Everyone else was there before you, so just get in line like you would at a movie theatre or sandwich shop.
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The slow downs don't come from not using the other lane, they come from the starting and stopping for letting people in. It's a phenomenon called bottlenecking. If everyone just got in the correct lane once they saw the lane is ending, the lane would run much smoother.

According to Alberta law, a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely.

If there is a car in that lane, and you are trying to wedge yourself in, that is not safe, and yes you are breaking a traffic law. Unless there is a merge, you don't have the right to that lane. You also are being a dbag. Everyone else was there before you, so just get in line like you would at a movie theatre or sandwich shop.
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The slow downs don't come from not using the other lane, they come from the starting and stopping for letting people in. It's a phenomenon called bottlenecking. If everyone just got in the correct lane once they saw the lane is ending, the lane would run much smoother.

According to Alberta law, a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely.

If there is a car in that lane, and you are trying to wedge yourself in, that is not safe, and yes you are breaking a traffic law. Unless there is a merge, you don't have the right to that lane. You also are being a dbag. Everyone else was there before you, so just get in line like you would at a movie theatre or sandwich shop.
Huh? What exactly about that indicates that it would not be safe? When you attempt to merge 300m earlier you wouldn't be wedging in? Quite the assumption there.

The fact is that it is more efficient to utilize all available road and for lanes to alternate at the point where one lane ends. If a lane closure or merge was supposed to be completed 300m further back then it would have been placed as such.
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The slow downs don't come from not using the other lane, they come from the starting and stopping for letting people in. It's a phenomenon called bottlenecking. If everyone just got in the correct lane once they saw the lane is ending, the lane would run much smoother.

According to Alberta law, a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely.

If there is a car in that lane, and you are trying to wedge yourself in, that is not safe, and yes you are breaking a traffic law. Unless there is a merge, you don't have the right to that lane. You also are being a dbag. Everyone else was there before you, so just get in line like you would at a movie theatre or sandwich shop.
You stopping and forcing your way in early is the exact same thing as going to the end and forcing your way if needed. Drive until you find a gap where you can fit without impeding anyone. Worst case scenerio you end up doing what you were going to do earlier anyways. It's the idiots that think someone is just "being a dbag" that cause this problem.

If everyone understood this and drove with a normal amount of space in between them and the car infront of them, as opposed to riding someones ass cause they have an "I let in 1 car only" rule or whatever, there would be no issue.
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You stopping and forcing your way in early is the exact same thing as going to the end and forcing your way if needed. Drive until you find a gap where you can fit without impeding anyone. Worst case scenerio you end up doing what you were going to do earlier anyways. It's the idiots that think someone is just "being a dbag" that cause this problem.

If everyone understood this and drove with a normal amount of space in between them and the car infront of them, as opposed to riding someones ass cause they have an "I let in 1 car only" rule or whatever, there would be no issue.
Are you kidding around with me? The one car only rule is perfect - if everybody had that rule every merge would be a perfect zipper of alternating vehicles. The problem is when some dummy, under the guise of "being nice," let's like four cars in front of them by slowing down all the cars behind them. Alternating is the correct way to merge.
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You shouldn't have any rule.

Leave space in between you and the car in front of you and if someone can fit in there, let them in. All you have to do is let off the gas so you slow down a bit.
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You shouldn't have any rule.

Leave space in between you and the car in front of you and if someone can fit in there, let them in. All you have to do is let off the gas so you slow down a bit.
No, alternating is correct and is the rule. It's a simple rule everybody can follow. Making it up on the fly by leaving space for every Tom, Dick and Harry is how bottlenecks happen. You slowing down to let multiple people in has a compounding effect on the traffic behind you. Leave room for one guy and keep on your way.
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