Welcome Agostino and Hanowski

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by FAN

Which wouldn't be a problem since he would make enough in the AHL to cover his entire year's tuition and living expenses. Actually, his signing bonus would likely cover that and more.

That's not the point though. It's also a pride thing, a free ride on an academic scholarship is a big deal IMO.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

That's not the point though. It's also a pride thing, a free ride on an academic scholarship is a big deal IMO.

No scholarships to any Ivy League school. They do, however, offer funding. based on need - whatever that exactly means.
Oh - you said academic. My bad. They do offer those, not for sports teams

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

You must have missed the 2nd intermission last night? Shannon retracted his statement and said his father who is his advisor wants Kenny to get his degree so he will be going back to Yale next year

So in a sense his father continues to control his destiny, "no son you can't play junior hockey in canada..you will stay in high school" and now "no you must get your degree at yale and not turn pro"

Next year..."son, Calgary is a long ways away, let me see if New Jersey is interested in you, woudn't it be great if mom and I could see you play all the time"

I feel the worst!!

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by T@T

So in a sense his father continues to control his destiny, "no son you can't play junior hockey in canada..you will stay in high school" and now "no you must get your degree at yale and not turn pro"

Next year..."son, Calgary is a long ways away, let me see if New Jersey is interested in you, woudn't it be great if mom and I could see you play all the time"

I feel the worst!!

Well, so far it has worked out pretty good for that kid. Got selected in the draft, goes on to help win the 1st NCAA hockey championship for a team, and gets an Ivy League degree out of it.

Pretty sure there is nothing to worry about. Agostino will have as good of an opportunity in Calgary as any other team in the NHL, if not better.

[killer_carlson]

He is following the Craig Adams model.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by T@T

So in a sense his father continues to control his destiny, "no son you can't play junior hockey in canada..you will stay in high school" and now "no you must get your degree at yale and not turn pro"

Next year..."son, Calgary is a long ways away, let me see if New Jersey is interested in you, woudn't it be great if mom and I could see you play all the time"

I feel the worst!!

Then again, Calgary being far away from his parents could feel like just the thing at that point

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by T@T

So in a sense his father continues to control his destiny, "no son you can't play junior hockey in canada..you will stay in high school" and now "no you must get your degree at yale and not turn pro"

Next year..."son, Calgary is a long ways away, let me see if New Jersey is interested in you, woudn't it be great if mom and I could see you play all the time"

I feel the worst!!

I would not worry about it. Agostino would have to have a monster year next year to have a bunch of teams wanting his services. There might be a couple teams that look at him, but Feaster can just do what he did with Hanowski, and offer him a tiny bit more money. Agostino is not the kind of player that other teams are going to try and out bid for.

The only player we should be worried about is if Gaudreau decides to play all 4 years. If he keeps up his play there will be 25+ teams wanting him. I presume most will offer him the max contract and some will offer him guaranteed ice time. We got a year until we have to worry about that.

[moon]

I think the D-bag move by Schultz has really made people worried about what really is not a big deal.

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I think for the most part the kid and agent want to go with the organization that picked them or traded for them and not rock the boat for what likely means no more money or better spot.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by moon

I think the D-bag move by Schultz has really made people worried about what really is not a big deal.

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I think for the most part the kid and agent want to go with the organization that picked them or traded for them and not rock the boat for what likely means no more money or better spot.

Don't really know the answer to the bolded part. Factors that would need to be included are how good the player is and if he played out all 4 years of NCAA. Not sure where i could look up that info, but i am sure someone will know.

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by moon

I think the D-bag move by Schultz has really made people worried about what really is not a big deal.

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I think for the most part the kid and agent want to go with the organization that picked them or traded for them and not rock the boat for what likely means no more money or better spot.

Add to that the Tim Erixson saga - holding out for another team my not actually get you what you want.

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by moon

I think the D-bag move by Schultz has really made people worried about what really is not a big deal.

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I think for the most part the kid and agent want to go with the organization that picked them or traded for them and not rock the boat for what likely means no more money or better spot.

RJ Umberger with the Canucks?

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

But the job prospects for a Yale graduate far outweigh an ELC.

According to his Twitter profile he's majoring in Indonesian and minoring in Bio-medical Engineering. Exotic if true....

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

But the job prospects for a Yale graduate far outweigh an ELC.

I highly doubt it. It all depends on what he studied and where he ends up working. But fresh Yale grads generally start off under $70K a year. Agostino will get that in AHL salary not to mention a likely signing bonus of $90K a year. And if he gets called up to the NHL, that's a couple of thousand dollars A DAY. Besides, he can always return to school if his hockey career doesn't work out.

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

That's not the point though. It's also a pride thing, a free ride on an academic scholarship is a big deal IMO.

I don't see how pride is relevant here. If Agostino already has a full ride academic scholarship and managed to keep it all these years, all he's doing is giving up that scholarship to pursue a career in the NHL. I don't understand how voluntarily turning down a scholarship or voluntarily giving up a scholarship to pursue a well-regarded dream of playing in the NHL would affect Agostino's pride. If anything, he can boast about being offered an NHL contract and how he chose to forgo his last year of a full ride scholarship to Yale (if that was the case).

[devo22]

Originally Posted by moon

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I only know two more, but they are only AHLers - Phil Kessel's brother Blake and Jason Gregoire did it. Both were drafted by the Islanders in 2007, but used the Schultz loophole in 2011 to sign with Philadelphia (Kessel) and Winnipeg (Gregoire).

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by T@T

So in a sense his father continues to control his destiny, "no son you can't play junior hockey in canada..you will stay in high school" and now "no you must get your degree at yale and not turn pro"

Next year..."son, Calgary is a long ways away, let me see if New Jersey is interested in you, woudn't it be great if mom and I could see you play all the time"

I feel the worst!!

Very smart Dad.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by moon

I think the D-bag move by Schultz has really made people worried about what really is not a big deal.

Outside of Schultz and Wheeler has there been a college draftee that a team wanted to sign that didn't sign with the team that drafted them?

I think for the most part the kid and agent want to go with the organization that picked them or traded for them and not rock the boat for what likely means no more money or better spot.

I think the Erixon ordeal is what has everyone paranoid. But in reality how many prospects have ever refused to sign here? Erixon, Anderson and Stoll? Those are all I can think of.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by FAN

I highly doubt it. It all depends on what he studied and where he ends up working. But fresh Yale grads generally start off under $70K a year. Agostino will get that in AHL salary not to mention a likely signing bonus of $90K a year. And if he gets called up to the NHL, that's a couple of thousand dollars A DAY. Besides, he can always return to school if his hockey career doesn't work out.

Ok. That's great for one or two years. What's after that? What are his chances of making more in his hockey career vs his non hockey? He has at best a 50% chance of playing in the NHL, never mind meaningful earning years. Not getting an Ivy League degree would be incredibly short sighted.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Ok. That's great for one or two years. What's after that? What are his chances of making more in his hockey career vs his non hockey? He has at best a 50% chance of playing in the NHL, never mind meaningful earning years. Not getting an Ivy League degree would be incredibly short sighted.

Are you seriously going there? Talking about whether Agostino should be more worried about finishing school rather than furthering his hockey career?

But really, who says anything about not getting an Ivy League degree? Newsflash, athletes go back to finish their degree all the time, and it's a whole lot easier when you've done three years of university. 2-3 summers and you're done.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by teroy

very controlling dad.

fixed

[HP1]

Here's a writeup on Agostino.

http://hockeyphenoms.blogspot.com/20...-national.html