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Old 04-10-2013, 02:37 PM   #1021
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What do you guys think about Jordan Subban?

Putting up really good points in his second year in the OHL.

51 points in 68 games, +22. 15 G, 36A.

Would be nice if we had a 2nd rounder, or maybe get him with our early 3rd round pick?
He's too small for his game to effectively translate in the NHL.

This team needs to get bigger.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:37 PM   #1022
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Button's read confirms my feelings that Nichushkin may be grabbed as early as #2.
If we have that pick, wouldn't be surprised.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:46 PM   #1023
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I like simple hockeydb. Click on each draft and scroll for the number of games played. Some interesting late picks.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/
interesting to look at the 2003 draft; one of the deepest ever

if you sort the players by points, some pretty mediocre NHLers after the top ~30. Add in 5 NHL calibre goalies, and a handful of defensive defensmen - maybe 40ish good to great NHLers out of nearly 300 drafted that year.

Perhaps my expectations were too high, but I would have guessed a much bigger number for 2003. Put into perspective what is reasonable to expect from any draft
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #1024
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interesting to look at the 2003 draft; one of the deepest ever

if you sort the players by points, some pretty mediocre NHLers after the top ~30. Add in 5 NHL calibre goalies, and a handful of defensive defensmen - maybe 40ish good to great NHLers out of nearly 300 drafted that year.

Perhaps my expectations were too high, but I would have guessed a much bigger number for 2003. Put into perspective what is reasonable to expect from any draft
There is typically a bust and/or a couple of underachievers in the top 5 of any draft. A lot of people don't think that will be the case this year, but I wouldn't discount it either.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #1025
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What do you guys think about Jordan Subban?

Putting up really good points in his second year in the OHL.

51 points in 68 games, +22. 15 G, 36A.

Would be nice if we had a 2nd rounder, or maybe get him with our early 3rd round pick?
Too small.
For another team, maybe. Calgary needs to draft big bodied guys with talent that are tough to play against.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:59 PM   #1026
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While it's looking more and more likely that the Blues pick will be in the low 20's - let's say 21st overall and Pitts - 28th Overall (Just guessing quickly).

I'd make the following offer:

Cammalleri (2M Cap/Salary Retained) + Pitts 1st 2013
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Columbus 1st 2013 (~12th Overall) + Columbus 2nd 2014.

I'd then trade Stajan + Cgy 6th 2013 for Ana 2nd 2013.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:01 PM   #1027
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MacKinnon
Wennberg/Zadorov
Erne (if he falls)
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:05 PM   #1028
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Not sure if this was posted yesterday, TSN has released their April rankings. Really awesome to see MacKinnon has dropped to #3. PLEASE be a Calgary Flame, Nathan MacKinnon!



http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:10 PM   #1029
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Not sure if this was posted yesterday, TSN has released their April rankings. Really awesome to see MacKinnon has dropped to #3. PLEASE be a Calgary Flame, Nathan MacKinnon!

Nathan MacKinnon C (6'0, 182) 1st
Rasmus Ristolainen D (6'3, 203) 20th
Valentin Zykov RW (6'0, 210) 29th
Yup... I like the looks of those picks. I really want to get Zykov.

http://thehockeywriters.com/valentin...spect-profile/

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:13 PM   #1030
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I would honestly be happy with any of the top 4 in this draft, but selfishly I want MacKinnon if we have a chance to draft him.

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:19 PM   #1031
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Mentioned it earlier, Calgary will take the Russian. Just a hunch.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:22 PM   #1032
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Bob Mackenzie's poll of scouts has Andre Burakowski at 7 in Sept; 14th in January
ISS has him at 17 in their March ranking
Button has him at 39, up from 46th in March

Some variability in rating this player

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:24 PM   #1033
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Mentioned it earlier, Calgary will take the Russian. Just a hunch.
I have had that hunch too. I'm beginning to hope so actually. Massive frame, excellent playmaking skills, excellent skater. Almost a total package.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:28 PM   #1034
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If we take the russian, maybe we can trade for Kuznetsov too since their teamates.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:33 PM   #1035
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God, no Russians please. So many great players in this round, there's no need to gamble. Why take the 1 guy who has the biggest red flag in the entire round?
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #1036
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It would almost be amusing to see the reaction if we had an "all red" 1st round.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:38 PM   #1037
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If we take the russian, maybe we can trade for Kuznetsov too since their teamates.
Though I don't believe any of the top 4 are a bad pick, the Flames will also need to make sure they draft at least 2-3 NCAA kids to meet the yearly quota so I'd expect some maneuvering with the later first rounders.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:40 PM   #1038
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Not sure if this was posted yesterday, TSN has released their April rankings. Really awesome to see MacKinnon has dropped to #3. PLEASE be a Calgary Flame, Nathan MacKinnon!



http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649
That's not TSN's official ranking, only Craig Button's

"Craig's List" offers Button's opinion on the prospect rankings, while McKenzie's list offers a survey of several scouts to get a consensus

Interesting to note though is that the Flames draft list usually resembles Button's more than McKenzie's
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:54 PM   #1039
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Interesting prospect in the WHL: Myles Bell

Listed as a D-man, but converted to the wing this year and notched 93 points (38 goals) in 69 games. Another Byfuglien in the making? Projected to go in the 3rd round.

Myles Bell
Shoots: Right
Ht/Wt: 6' 0"/202 lbs
Position: D/LW
Team: Kelowna (WHL)
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:58 PM   #1040
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Interesting prospect in the WHL: Myles Bell

Listed as a D-man, but converted to the wing this year and notched 93 points (38 goals) in 69 games. Another Byfuglien in the making? Projected to go in the 3rd round.

Myles Bell
Shoots: Right
Ht/Wt: 6' 0"/202 lbs
Position: D/LW
Team: Kelowna (WHL)


Stay away the guy is a prick. Alcohol problems and killed his girlfriend well driving under the influence.
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