Gaudreau to stay at Boston College for 2013-2014

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nik-

They don't get paid the NHL salary unless they're up in the NHL though no?

Correct

For a top prospect though just between the signing bonus and AHL contract they are at the least making 500k on their 3-Year ELC.

It will only go up from there with any NHL time they see, since their salary goes up tenfold if they actually play some NHL games.

[getbak]

I don't buy the argument that he'd easily make the team next year. He's a left winger and the only position that the Flames have an over-abundance of is left wingers.

Even if they trade Cammalleri and Tanguay in the summer, he'd still be behind Hudler, Glencross, and Baertschi as natural left wingers.

[CaptainCrunch]

Great decision by him and his family. He doesn't need to rush into a pro career. Finish your schooling, get some grade A coaching and playing time.

The Flames will wait.

[moon]

Originally Posted by getbak

I don't buy the argument that he'd easily make the team next year. He's a left winger and the only position that the Flames have an over-abundance of is left wingers.

Even if they trade Cammalleri and Tanguay in the summer, he'd still be behind Hudler, Glencross, and Baertschi as natural left wingers.

I think he would make the team if for no other reason Feaster seems to like to force the issue on "his guys."

I could see Feaster wanting him on the team so he could talk about the great changes they are making by bringing in young talent and moving out post-apex players.

[MissTeeks]

The segment is up on the Fan's site if anyone wanted to listen to it:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/news/

[renny]

Originally Posted by moon

Why?

If his grades are fine then he will have no problem getting into school and with his signing bonus alone he will be way ahead of most kids that are going to school.

Even if you have the grades once you start working and have other responsibilities it makes going back to school a big challenge. It's not just the money, there are a plethora of other factors that make going back challenging.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Cheese

@FAN960Jason: Agree or disagree, more Rhett: "Don't kid yourself. He's staying for the fun of it, and for the ease of his college life." #Flames

Ya so? What is wrong with that? He has many years left to be serious. You only live once.

No kidding.

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Rhett is a pretty big tool. Used to like hangin out at Cowboys with 17-18 year olds when he was on "LTIR". Wouldn't be very friendly to the fans either. So for him to jump on Johnny because he "wants the ease/fun of college life" is kinda ridiculous.

I've had similar experiences in public with Warrener. The guy is a mouth breathing attention w****. He stays employed because he's always the counter argument and negator.

One of my least liked Flames players ever and certainly top three most hated hockey media personalities (Kypreos, McLean and Rhett).

[moon]

Originally Posted by renny

Even if you have the grades once you start working and have other responsibilities it makes going back to school a big challenge. It's not just the money, there are a plethora of other factors that make going back challenging.

As someone who has gone back 6 years after finishing school I understand but if you want to go back it is very, very easy especially if you are coming out of a career that gives you the financial ability and freedom to get it done.

If he wants a degree it is easy for him to get it by staying in school or going and playing hockey and getting the degree afterwards. Very easy to do.

[renny]

Originally Posted by moon

As someone who has gone back 6 years after finishing school I understand but if you want to go back it is very, very easy especially if you are coming out of a career that gives you the financial ability and freedom to get it done.

If he wants a degree it is easy for him to get it by staying in school or going and playing hockey and getting the degree afterwards. Very easy to do.

I have also gone back, and it wasn't "very very easy" as you put it. Everybody's situations are different. It would have been a lot easier for me to stay in university, but life situations are uncontrollable sometimes.

At any rate, I will never say it's a bad idea to get your degree, I have no problems with him pursuing his education goals.

[moon]

Originally Posted by renny

I have also gone back, and it wasn't "very very easy" as you put it. Everybody's situations are different. It would have been a lot easier for me to stay in university, but life situations are uncontrollable sometimes.

At any rate, I will never say it's a bad idea to get your degree, I have no problems with him pursuing his education goals.

For regular folks for you and me it would be much tougher, and the very easy comment was in regards to a pro athlete and the benefits they have, but considering he has summers free, more than enough money to pay for not only school but other expenses while going to school, his previous career would be over so that isn't stopping him and even if he had kids/wife would be able to support them while finishing up classes.

If he was a regular guy I would agree but the advantages he would have having just come off playing 3 years (at minimum) of professional sports would make it very easy for him to finish a degree if that was what he wanted.

If he wasn't interested in finishing the degree than it would be tough but as mentioned he is likely not going to do much with the degree in that case anyways.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by moon

For regular folks for you and me it would be much tougher, and the very easy comment was in regards to a pro athlete and the benefits they have, but considering he has summers free, more than enough money to pay for not only school but other expenses while going to school, his previous career would be over so that isn't stopping him and even if he had kids/wife would be able to support them while finishing up classes.

If he was a regular guy I would agree but the advantages he would have having just come off playing 3 years (at minimum) of professional sports would make it very easy for him to finish a degree if that was what he wanted.

If he wasn't interested in finishing the degree than it would be tough but as mentioned he is likely not going to do much with the degree in that case anyways.

Might be harder for a pro athlete to go back to school if they get a few concussions over those three years.

[mikeecho]

The last thing we need is go the Edmonton route and rush kids into games against men, with the result being season ending injuries all in an effort to play for 13-15 spot in the West.

[puds]

There's no way Gaudreau would make the flames next year. Going back to school is the right decision for him. Gives him a better opportunity to bulk up and build strength while getting an education. His stature still makes him a long shot to make the NHL.

Also, there is no way it's much easier just to finish off your degree while you at university. I don't know many people who have left part way through College and gone back to do the same thing. Even though it's possible to do this it seems like a huge pain in the ass and a lot of things change in your early twenties which might not make it possible/desirable to go back and get your degree.

Maybe if Warrener had more than a 9th grade education he would see the value in getting an education and not make asinine comments about Johnny Hockey being scared to play against men.

[Erick Estrada]

Did I miss the information on when Warrener killed someone's dog and slept with someone's wife?

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by fotze

Would a place like BC just let him back in? Courses also expire, pretty sure my engineering degree had to be completed in 8 years or something. They don't just have to let anyone in, especially if he 'spurned' them and left early.

I know Cory Schneider went back to Boston College in the years after signing his ELC and finished his degree over several summers. That's another option if someone really wants to finish their education; especially for guys who'd spend the offseason in Boston anyway like Schneider and Gaudreau.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think its where he said 'scared'. That can be taken as nothing but an insult. Everything else is a potentially valid claim. Thats why people are probably snapping back a bit.

Play the insult game, it will come back, just the way it is.

The one thing his comments do make me wonder, even if its not valid, is most top level players have a swagger/belief that they will excel and any level. Just hope he isn't scared (even if he should be).

He finished 3 years of school. You would have to double that time. I know if I did 2 years of school in the summers that would take 5.5 years for those 2.

At the end of the day it's his opinion to which he gets paid to voice. You may not agree but there is quite the character assassination going on in this thread which reaks of the lack of class Warrener has been accused of. Look at the people ripping Iginla in another thread for simply commenting on the Penguins organization for crying out loud. Talk about overly emotional fans.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by fotze

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He finished 3 years of school. You would have to double that time. I know if I did 2 years of school in the summers that would take 5.5 years for those 2.

That's what Nieuwendyk did, I think -2 years and then finished the degree in the summers

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Did I miss the information on when Warrener killed someone's dog and slept with someone's wife?

This.

Originally Posted by fotze

I think its where he said 'scared'. That can be taken as nothing but an insult. Everything else is a potentially valid claim. Thats why people are probably snapping back a bit.

Play the insult game, it will come back, just the way it is.

Whenever Warrener opens his mouth, it's either an outright insult or a backhanded one. I understand that it's his job to voice an opinion and give some "insight", but the way he comes across is unprofessional. It comes off as though he's too dumb or not an insider enough to provide meaningful comments/analysis so he has to take cuts at people (often former teammates).

And as a person, from my interaction with him, he's a dick.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by fotze

The one thing his comments do make me wonder, even if its not valid, is most top level players have a swagger/belief that they will excel and any level. Just hope he isn't scared (even if he should be).

I think him being scared is the least likely reason that he's staying at BC. It's much more likely a combination of his parents urging him to get an education, him wanting to play with his brother, him realizing that he can help BC win next season whereas the Flames will struggle with or without him, him wanting more time to hit the gym, and him wanting to deliver another NCAA Championship to BC before leaving rather than going out on a low note.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

At the end of the day it's his opinion to which he gets paid to voice. You may not agree but there is quite the character assassination going on in this thread which reaks of the lack of class Warrener has been accused of. Look at the people ripping Iginla in another thread for simply commenting on the Penguins organization for crying out loud. Talk about overly emotional fans.

He offers his opinion, but what is that worth, really? Unless he said he talked to Gaudreau and Gaudreau said that he's scared to make the jump now, he's just a POS windbag that has a history of this. Why can't his opinion be more measured and, I don't know, based on something other than just keeping his job because he's the controversial voice?

"I don't understand why Gaudreau wouldn't take this opportunity to make the jump in the NHL? The Flames are gutted, he's accomplished a lot at the college level and how much more can he learn playing in the NCAA? While I can appreciate the value of an education, I think this may prove to be a mistake for his hockey development."

That would be a far more educated, balanced and thoughtful response that basically says the same thing without resorting to baseless crap like "scared".