04-08-2013, 12:54 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
but picking up a center when they are already deep is something the Oilers would do passing on need for another type of player they already have.
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Yes, but the Aves also don't like to spend money, witness the hardball that they played with ROR. Statsny makes 6.6M and is a UFA the year after next... I could easily see the Aves deciding that With ROR, and Duchene entering their third contracts (and Landeskog his second) that same year that they need to clear out dollars and if they draft MacKinnon to "replace" Statsny they could ship him (Statsny) out for a more cost controlled bluechip D-man. It would accomplish the same thing as drafting Jones straight up but would be more cost efficient in terms of real dollars.
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04-08-2013, 01:06 PM
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#782
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Yes, but the Aves also don't like to spend money, witness the hardball that they played with ROR. Statsny makes 6.6M and is a UFA the year after next... I could easily see the Aves deciding that With ROR, and Duchene entering their third contracts (and Landeskog his second) that same year that they need to clear out dollars and if they draft MacKinnon to "replace" Statsny they could ship him (Statsny) out for a more cost controlled bluechip D-man. It would accomplish the same thing as drafting Jones straight up but would be more cost efficient in terms of real dollars.
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I don't buy that. I get that they are a poorly run franchise but that would be akin to purposely trying not to build a team. Drafting top players and trading them when they come of their ELC's to replace them with their top upcoming draft picks is counter productive. What you propose is akin to a dog chasing it's tail. Erik Johnson isn't a franchise defenseman and Jones will be. Easy decision unless you think they are comfortable with Hunwick as their top D man going forward.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 04-08-2013 at 01:10 PM.
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04-08-2013, 01:29 PM
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#784
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Button's rankings are pretty telling for me.
With his brother as a top scout for the Flames there is some sharing of knowledge there, he is the one who pegged Jankowski last year and that was when the speculation that the Flames were interested started.
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04-08-2013, 01:29 PM
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What if we drafted Seth Jones #1, then with the STL and PITT picks we select Alexander Wennberg Nicolas Petan.
Would you guys be happy with that? We get the #1 stud Dman and two potential great centres.
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04-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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#786
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Lifetime Suspension
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I would not be happy with Seth Jones first overall, actually not even second overall. I'd only take him if we were drafting third.
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04-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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I just don't see Nichushkin going that high.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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04-08-2013, 01:36 PM
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Honestly I hope we pick 2nd, I want Colorado to pick first because there defiantly taking Seth. Then we can have our choice of Mack, Drouin, or Barkov. I dont want Seth on the board when we pick in the chance we take him.
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04-08-2013, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
What if we drafted Seth Jones #1, then with the STL and PITT picks we select Alexander Wennberg Nicolas Petan.
Would you guys be happy with that? We get the #1 stud Dman and two potential great centres.
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With the first pick I am good with Jones, Drouin, Mackinnon, or Barkov. Would prefer the center but think any of them give us a future franchise player.
Mackinnon and Barkov are my preference due to them being centers and due to their age. Being almost a year younger then their draft age is a huge difference and cannot be overlooked.
If it does end up being Jones I personally really hope the Flames somehow get another pick in the 7-10 range. Really a fan of Monahan, and would love for the Flames to be able to pick him up to solidify our center ice position moving foward.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 04-08-2013 at 01:41 PM.
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04-08-2013, 01:37 PM
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#790
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I don't buy that. I get that they are a poorly run franchise but that would be akin to purposely trying not to build a team. Drafting top players and trading them when they come of their ELC's to replace them with their top upcoming draft picks is counter productive. What you propose is akin to a dog chasing it's tail. Erik Johnson isn't a franchise defenseman and Jones will be. Easy decision unless you think they are comfortable with Hunwick as their top D man going forward.
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I think what he's saying is that they'll try to trade Stastby because of the contracts to ROR and Duchene, as well as Landeskog looking for a raise off his ELC soon.
Not trading Landeskog, et all and replacing him with a rookie,
In fact trading Stastny is smart management because ROR and Duchene are better and younger and cheaper.
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04-08-2013, 01:37 PM
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#791
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Originally Posted by JayFlowmeester
Honestly I hope we pick 2nd, I want Colorado to pick first because there defiantly taking Seth. Then we can have our choice of Mack, Drouin, or Barkov. I dont want Seth on the board when we pick in the chance we take him.
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agreed. Then im torn between Drouin or Mackinnon.
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04-08-2013, 01:39 PM
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#792
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
What if we drafted Seth Jones #1, then with the STL and PITT picks we select Alexander Wennberg Nicolas Petan.
Would you guys be happy with that? We get the #1 stud Dman and two potential great centres.
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I do not want to see us pick Petan at all in the first round. I know he is putting up rediculous numbers with Portland, however he is an undersized centre and I see him being a player who lights up Jr but cannot make the jump to the NHL.
I personally want a centre with our top pick and then look at defensemen later. Just based on draft history the best defensemen have come from the late first and second round.
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04-08-2013, 01:39 PM
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#793
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Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)
agreed. Then im torn between Drouin or Mackinnon.
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Gotta be Mack, we need a center so bad.
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04-08-2013, 01:41 PM
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#794
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
I would not be happy with Seth Jones first overall, actually not even second overall. I'd only take him if we were drafting third.
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Hypothetical, and very wishy washy, situation. What if the Flames made some great trades and had the 1st three picks of the draft. Would you care if they picked him 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
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04-08-2013, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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I look at the top ten in that list and salivate. They're all good.
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04-08-2013, 01:46 PM
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#796
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Originally Posted by Buff
Hypothetical, and very wishy washy, situation. What if the Flames made some great trades and had the 1st three picks of the draft. Would you care if they picked him 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
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Not really understanding what your saying here, but drafting 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall is next to impossible.
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04-08-2013, 01:47 PM
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Location: Halifax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Hypothetical, and very wishy washy, situation. What if the Flames made some great trades and had the 1st three picks of the draft. Would you care if they picked him 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
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Why would it matter?
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04-08-2013, 01:48 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Hypothetical, and very wishy washy, situation. What if the Flames made some great trades and had the 1st three picks of the draft. Would you care if they picked him 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
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Sarcasm?
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04-08-2013, 01:54 PM
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Retired
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The more I read about Zadorov, the more he intrigues me. The guy is an absolute monster, hits to hurt, arguably has good leadership. It sounds like his downside is a more mobile version of Regehr.
Maybe the Russian factor will scare a couple teams off and he falls to the Blues pick.
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04-08-2013, 01:58 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
The more I read about Zadorov, the more he intrigues me. The guy is an absolute monster, hits to hurt, arguably has good leadership. It sounds like his downside is a more mobile version of Regehr.
Maybe the Russian factor will scare a couple teams off and he falls to the Blues pick.
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Damn... imagine getting McKinnon and Zadorov.
That'd be like our Toews and Chara. In ONE ROUND.
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