Brian Burke

[the_only_turek_fan]

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

[drPepper1]

I like the guys Feaster has drafted since he's been here. For that alone I'm okay with him staying another year or two. Once the cupboards are stocked, I'm okay with having another gm come in for the final touches and signing ufas or making deals to improve this club.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

I don't know what to think will actually happen, but I don't think he is the right guy for the job. I was inwardly sceptical at first, but willing to wait and see what happens. I don't like what I have seen from him. I am all for the Flames replacing him.

[browna]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

The fact that he's still here doesn't really mean anything, one way or another.

The fact that he didn't talk for a full 5 weeks after the bumbling of ROR until he had to announce the Iginla trade, still speaks volumes for me IMHO.

There was not enough reasonable time, in this short season, since that time and before the deadline to let him go and bring someone else. As had been mentioned, not fair for a new GMs first task to be the one presiding over a fire sale of the franchise player, and outside of a slightly better return on both the trades, a new GM wasn't going to get a whole lot more.

I guess we'll find out within the next month...before or just at the end of the season will give a new GM, who would have a lot more control then Feaster does, almost 2 months to get ready for the draft, compliance buyout and UFA.

IMHO, despite of him being front and center this past week for the first time in a while, his task was to make the moves he did and could, he's still on shaky ground if the Flames truly want to turn the page on and off the ice.

[CliffFletcher]

Pros:

He's experienced.
He doesn't take any crap.
He gives amusing press conferences.

Cons:

He's an egomaniac.
His track record is spotty.
He tends to get distracted and caught up by the media.

[$ven27]

Could really care less if his personality isn't my preference. not sure why it's an issue to some, man's great at rebuilds.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

IF Feaster is going to get fired, don't you guys think it would have happened by now? Why let a lame duck trade your franchise player?

A lame duck is exactly who you want trading your franchise player. The return is almost certain to be disappointing to fans, so you let the lame duck carry that can, and bring in a new guy once the dirty work is done.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

A lame duck is exactly who you want trading your franchise player. The return is almost certain to be disappointing to fans, so you let the lame duck carry that can, and bring in a new guy once the dirty work is done.

So you let him make a bad trade for your franchise player so you can fire him?

IMO, Feaster won't get fired atleast for a couple of years. Feaster and Co. were just given permission to trade the franchise player and given the OK on an "re-tool" so I don't think they will turn this around on Feaster saying he made a bad trade and was let go. Our owner's don't operate that way.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

So you let him make a bad trade for your franchise player so you can fire him?

IMO, Feaster won't get fired atleast for a couple of years. Feaster and Co. were just given permission to trade the franchise player and given the OK on an "re-tool" so I don't think they will turn this around on Feaster saying he made a bad trade and was let go. Our owner's don't operate that way.

Fact is, the franchise player wasn't worth much, because he was no longer a franchise player. Any return would be disappointing to fans who remember the player at his prime, rather than what he is now.

This happens a lot in pro sports - one guy is handed the dirty work, and then another guy steps in with a clean slate.

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

It's truly incredible if ownership isn't at least strongly considering firing him given the fact that he totally screwed up the last couple of years. He wasn't inherited an easy situation but he has absolutely accelerated the horrible state of the franchise in multiple ways. Beyond that though, he has consistently demonstrated sheer incompetence on far too many occasions to still have a job.

Last thing I'll say on it though is that even if none of those things were the case, he is the wrong person to lead the next stage for this franchise. He has said so himself but he has also done nothing in his career to indicate he is well-suited to be running the show during a rebuild.

[moon]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

Hard to say because of the odd/stupid hockey decisions coming from this team that even without meddling would still need approval from the ownership.

Based on his track record I can't see how he isn't fired. So many negatives and 0 positives makes it tough to come with any reason not to fire him.

He certainly deserves to be fired but whether the upper management/owner is smart enough to realize this is tough to say.

[R2theJ]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Do people here really think Jay Feaster is going to get fired?

This is interesting.

The only way he gets fired is if K King gets it first... Which means, he isn't going anywhere.

[Buck Murdock]

I could easily see Jay do something like trade a first and second rounder for Brad Richards or try to get Teemmu Selanne. I think he has plans to do all kinds of crazy things. I don't think he actually gets it at all. Even though he talks about intellectual honesty, I think he lives in some kind of Bizzarro world.

[Azhouse]

New here.

I would trust Burke to do what needs to be done. I think Hartley and King can go as well. Bring in Burke before the draft and let him hire a whole new staff.

What we are seeing now is just abysmal.

[868904]

I'm sure the Flames will just sit on their hands and not take advantage of an opportunity to make a move to acquire a quality hockey asset like Brian Burke while it is available.

Just like how they missed out on Randy Carlye and Bruce Boudreau last year and how they missed out on an opportunity to max out asset return on Iginla and Kiprusoff.

This team has been two steps behind the rest of the league for years.

It's pretty sad but this franchise, in its over 30 years, has ever only had 1 good General Manager. We were spoiled rotten for that first decade.

[king17]

Would love to see him hired here and to bring in Dallas Eakins as the new coach. Has done great things with the Marlies and kids in the Leaf system (Kadri).

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by 868904

I'm sure the Flames will just sit on their hands and not take advantage of an opportunity to make a move to acquire a quality hockey asset like Brian Burke while it is available.

Just like how they missed out on Randy Carlye and Bruce Boudreau last year and how they missed out on an opportunity to max out asset return on Iginla and Kiprusoff.

This team has been two steps behind the rest of the league for years.

It's pretty sad but this franchise, in its over 30 years, has ever only had 1 good General Manager. We were spoiled rotten for that first decade.

I can't remember when the Flames really cast their net wide for a GM or coach. I mean take a couple months, interview four or five top candidates from outside the organization. We always seem to just pluck up someone already in the organization, or with close ties to it. There's something deeply parochial about this franchise. Maybe it's the small-city environment the owners are accustomed to operating in. I don't know the source, but it's holding us back.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I can't remember when the Flames really cast their net wide for a GM or coach. I mean take a couple months, interview four or five top candidates from outside the organization. We always seem to just pluck up someone already in the organization, or with close ties to it. There's something deeply parochial about this franchise. Maybe it's the small-city environment the owners are accustomed to operating in. I don't know the source, but it's holding us back.

And it's fan base, judging by the difficulty with letting go of former players, an illogical belief that players will return and resign or that the best coach or GM is some ex player.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Jim Nill has a 6 week window each summer when he can pursue GM positions around the league.

He's the man to do this rebuild. Bring him back to the city of Calgary

finally someone agrees. Flames definitely need to consider this guy. We need someone that can have long term success here

[$ven27]

Burke or Nill would be fine by me.